| Re: PRINDLE 19MX (shallow water dream boat)
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#10844 09/22/02 01:51 PM 09/22/02 01:51 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Bryce,
just like sails and airplane wings a higher aspect ratio (longer and thinner) generates lift with better efficiency and less drag. Daggerboards are no different. While I'll agree that the swinging daggerboards offer great advantages in convenience, they do not provide lift with the same low drag characteristics of a straight deep board.
Jake Kohl | | | Re: PRINDLE 19MX (shallow water dream boat)
[Re: brycehale]
#10845 09/22/02 01:53 PM 09/22/02 01:53 PM |
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 46 Long Island,NY malc
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Posts: 46 Long Island,NY | The Tornado, which is the older and bigger brother to the p19, fits into this category. In our high weed area I would not be caught dead with a dagger board boat. With the Tornado and the P19, you can run turning blocks and lines so that the leeward board can be operated from the windward side, a big advantage while solo.
Also, I have heard of someone who made a dagger insert for the centerboard trunks, so you can use it as a dagger bd or center board boat.
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| | | Re: PRINDLE 19MX (shallow water dream boat)
[Re: brycehale]
#10848 09/22/02 07:55 PM 09/22/02 07:55 PM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | The Prindle 19mx is certainly a competitive and well respected boat with a great racing history. As far as rating goes, check http://www.ussailing.org/portsmouth/tables02/tables02mh.asp for the Portsmouth ratings between catamarans (the lower number is faster). The Prindle 19MX is rated slightly faster than the Nacra 5.8 (which is also 19'). I am not sure if the Prindle 19mx rating includes a spinnaker but I know the 5.8 rating does not. The P19mx is almost identically rated with the Hobie 20 and so on....
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Jake Kohl | | | Re: PRINDLE 19MX (shallow water dream boat)
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#10849 09/22/02 09:04 PM 09/22/02 09:04 PM |
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Posts: 364 | There is no Inter 19-ft boat. The Nacra 6.O na is correctly rated faster than my P-19 stock, but all that means is that a 6.O guy can beat me boat for boat, by a little, and still correct out to second place. I know I'm rated 14.6 seconds/hour faster than a Nacra 5.8 original, meaning that if I beat him by 15 seconds in a one-hour race, I win; if I only beat him by 14 seconds, he wins. P-19 pinhead is rated boat-for-boat identical to the Nacra 5.8na, but cannot point as well due to the centreboards. The solution is to sail farther, faster. The P-19 mx is rated a hair slower than the Nacra 6.O original, so finishing at the same time or a few seconds behind would 'correct out' to win.
Anyway, read the tables. The numbers fof the older, less "sexy" boats like P-19 and Nacra Anything "original" are easier to hit by a decent sailor than are those for the hot classes like Inter 20, Hobie 20, and to a somewhat lesser extent Nacra 6.O.
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[Re: malc]
#10852 09/23/02 03:44 PM 09/23/02 03:44 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Indeed the Taipan and sorts like the Bimare 16 and Stealth have boards that go less deep noticably. The F18 daggers and I-20 daggers go almost 1 mtr deep (3 feet) next is the Stealth at 0,75 mtr. (2 ft 12 inches), then the Taipan and bim at 0,65 mtr (=2 feet + 1 inch)
Also A-cat baords don't run deep= somewhere between 0,6 and 0,75 mtr. while the I_17R and FX-one singlehanders are near to 1 mtr. again.
0,65 mtr. deep water reaches just above the knee. I don't think that laser 1's can sail in water that is less deep than that.
wouter
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