Well, I'm not out to "get" Bimare and it was not a concious decision on my part to "exclude" them.

But indeed the Bimare Javelin 16 is on the backburning in my mind. Pretty much because I don't know of any agent/dealer that handles these boats. As far as I know a customer has to pick up the boat himself at the factory in Italy, of course this is also reflected in the quoted price. Shipping boats does add costs and sometimes alot of costs. I know of no-one who has bought this Jav 16. This is not to say that they are not sold, only that from my perspective the jav 16 activity is absent.

Also, I personally don't know of any organisation that imports these boats to other area's outside of Europe.

As you say the javelin 16 is not F16 class legal and without having its own class structure the Jav. 16 is basically an unsupported boat. It doesn't even have a rating number in any of the major handicap system. There are tens of other designs that are in a similar situation but it serves no purpose to name all these in threads like this.

For very much similar reasons I'm also not quoting other designs like the mosquito, cheshire cat, isotope or the unicorn. They do exist and people sail them but they are too small as an individual class and without an active international scene to warrant being included in this particular discussions. At least that is my opinion.

It is just not practical to name all designs out there, so I choose to concentrate on the most likely candidates.

But having said all this I also admit that I'm doing promo work for the F16 class and not for some unrelated class. If that class wants to be noticed then they themselfs need to do "the work". That is how the game is played.

Wouter