Yea, I'm out here in sandiego, Brad Smith an I are doing Cat Fight if the winds chill from the 32 that windfinder is calling for. Took a look at his. Oat yesterday and he has the ones that you are referring to. The loops on the. Boltrope that EP is sending may also be too long to use with my tramp. Maybe I'll go ahead and order those solid slugs from Murray's. I don't want to. E put out another week. Time to get this I on the water.