Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
I will try to be clear for you Todd.... that way you can stop making crap up.You've been watching to much politics. "When you're wrong accuse the other guy of being a liar" doesn't work when you've typed it on a forum.

launching from ramps is not my preferred launch... just that many beach cats, A cats, SINGLE HANDED SAILORS do launch from ramps. (one of the largest A class clubs, Hopatcong has a ramp) THIS IS A FACT... So stop making **** up about what I wrote. If you don't like the ramp... go somewhere else. I've launched at Hopatcong. The last weekend I was there I saw at least 4 boats go into the structure around it. I had to swim my boat in backwards to the farside ramp the second day because the main ramp was unusable. What's your point with all the ramp crap anyway, besides arguing.It's a red herring.


I am not offended by Dave saying... US Sailing should work on beach access... Stop making **** up. I agree US Sailing could do something about small boat access... I think Dave would be perfect person to take that job. It is a volunteer organization... step up and make it happen. Don't you have issues with the Outer banks beach access? Maybe you could step up.!

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Dave that is a terrific idea!! I am sure the US Sailing Multihull Council would support any effort you make in working on this issue! We would even form an official committee or working group with you in the lead should you wish!
So this snarky, smartass response was because you weren't offended. I'll keep that in mind.And don't say it wasn't sarcasm because you've spent every post since then saying it's not US Sailing's problem.

Don't like the US Sailing umbrella... no problem.. join the surf community.... a bit narrow for my taste but... step up and do something. Casting off anyone that disagrees with you with the "Step up..." argument is getting old.

Just to make sure you get the point of this particular thread... Tradewinds is NOT a problem about beach access!!!. We all know what the real problem with Tradewinds is.

Stop making other stuff up... I am not hyping US Sailing....I told MI, HOW I used them and for what purpose. He obviously did not know any facts. You are always hyping USS.

The older I get... the less patience I have for half assed clubs that waste my time or BS drivel like this. I think training race officers and working on the rules is extremely valuable...US Sailing does other stuff that organizations need to use as well. Nevertheless, I don't go back to clubs who screw up the on the water stuff... whether they have a PRO with a US Sailing PRO cert or not. And I thought you were to cheap to join.It seems you don't sail anymore anyway so I guess it doesn't matter.

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