oh ok nice then here during winter we sail one day a month during winter i hope to sail again soon with new boat when tramp is fixed. also in june there is a vary big event called the sauna sail which is held at the latrobe valley yacht club were water is 23 dec all time its mine & gary masckels old club so hope to go there check out the clubs web site as i havent been back there since left there about 30 years ago hope all goes well in future say i to debra to for me bye take care