Edit: I'm also on record years ago about my distaste for the foul language and general SA-ization of this forum in recent years. I think that Mary used to be the better of the two with scrubbing the forum of that stuff, or at least people acted better when they thought she was.
When I joined, Mary definitely had a role in keeping people in-line but it seemed to me, she too was beat down with the fighting and personal attacks and bowed out due to it (at least that is what i thought after reading her final posts).
