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10 minutes with mishaps and walking over to the car a few time. 20 minutes (for only the spi gear)? That's far to long.

Mate it took you longer than 10 mins. just to type all that, never mind actually do it!

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Try thinking of it this way. Everybody gets a kite with the jump in performance with it instead of you.

Try thinking of it this way Wouter. No 14's bother fitting kites. At our 14ft only regattas, everyone gets back to the beach roughly at the same time after a great race where everyone has a great time on boats which don't cost two arms and a leg to own and don't take *any* extra time to rig or de-rig, and because they are 14ft only regattas, it doesn't matter a squirt what the bigger spinnaker boats are doing.


>>>but with a shirtload more rigging to do to sail in a class, even more fragmented than it already is.<<<


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Sorry Berny, you are just looking for argument to support your favoured outcome.

Sorry Wouter I thought that's what we do here?
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Fragmentation was created and perfect BEFORE the advent of spinnakers.

Yes but I still see no need to continue to promote it.


>>>That sort of thinking is a legacy of a sport which is fragmented by too many classes. The various classes now have to race together simply to have a decent number of boats on the start line.<<<

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I think even the A-cats themselves will become a victim in time. Either that or they too must incorporate a spi.
Please explain???
They'd have to be insane to go down that road. IMHO it would destroy the class.


>>In an optimum situation there'd be enough boats in a class to demand their own start and race only with boats of similar performance, not a mixed fleet where the 16ftrs get creamed by the 20ftrs.<<<


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It is exactly this exclusive "I want my own start" mindset that fragmented the cat scene. Therefor it will not provide a route back to the glory times.

Not logical.

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With all due respect; How are you going to attract all these sailors to your class when you don't want to sail in mixed fleets.

You miss my point. I'm talking about 14ft only regattas where all 14ft classes compete together. We've been doing it for 12years. We get 50+ 14's of various designs on the start line. We'll be doing two regattas this season and hopefully a GP type circuit not too far down the track.


>>>The whole idea of developing the 14ft cat regatta concept is to consolidate by facilitating a group of classes with similar performance. Making one particular division within that class significantly superior is counterproductive.<<<
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Then what will be your selling argument to attract sailors to your class ?

Large fleets of reasonably inexpensive, uncomplicated boats of various designs competing against each other on a common course. What could be better than that?

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Of course I understand that F14 is not my league so please excusse me for butting in.Wouter


By my guest Wouter
Bern