Hi Matt <br> <br>I agree I am tired... but this is one of those opportunites to change cat racing for the better. <br> <br>Your observatoin that most of the cat racers are NOT racing with Spinaker is very true <br> <br>Not Stated is another observation. There is certainly not a huge tidal change of our existing cat racers moving to spin boat. <br> <br> In your area, the N6.0's apparently do not want to go buoy racing with spinakers. The class seems content to go sloop rig. ( I know several have chutes for distance racing) <br> <br>What formulation of a NAf20 class would convince 75% of your 6.0 fleet to race chutes around triangles? <br> <br>The 6.0 class is probably the BEST target for formula 20 to go after for grandfathering boats in. <br> <br>The NA F20 class is by definition a spin class. One of the goals in getting it formulated is to optimize competition and NOT fracture into lots of competing one designs. <br> <br>I don't think that growth is going to come about by <br>1) getting new sailors into 20 foot racing boats. OR <br>2) Hobie 16 couple teams moving up to 20 foot spin boats. <br>We have not seen a huge movement in the last couple of years. <br> <br>What do you see and hear that I am missing here? <br> <br>My working model for growth <br>I think that a formula class for racers could attract the monohull racer now on a Melges or J boat. IF they saw tight balls to the wall racing. The cost of a cat campaign would be 1/2 that of a Melge's with a lot less hassle. <br>Will this hypothesis turn out... I don't know. but it seems more likely than Wally and Tyler Myers H16 National champs racing a 20 footer chute boat next year. (Tyler is 12ish... sorry Tyler) <br> <br>No matter my understanding of the market <br>How do you see ANY f20 class improving grass roots participation. <br> <br>BTW, The recent discussion on the open civil forum generated lots of ideas about improving grass roots participation. No one came up with a f20 class as a solution for the grass roots problem. <br> <br>Take Care <br>Mark <br><br><br>
