for me, the bob and the gloves are just luxuries... luxuries which i cant afford, i also have some burly climbing calusses in place of gloves and an old life jacket to keep my boat from turtling, but when reading on this turtling issue... i notice everyone just talks about how to prevent it, but how do you right it once it has turtled? ...plus i think the bob would keep you from going as fast as possible, and with an old boat, every little bit helps