I little update, i have seen it before it looked really nice he said it was his first sail but and just never wanted it to go, now he has a bigger and nicer one and more bills and he never uses it anymore. i have looked at it. the tramp has some new stitching on the ends and some custom tie downs where it meets the hull so its more flush, he said it cost like $350. today around 12 we are going out to test sail it. and i'll give you an update on the actual water it takes on if any. he seems like a real laid back guy not too pushy. i mean he told me "Go check out other boats first, before you buy this one so you can appriciate this one." there aren't too many for sail right now so i am just going to look at some sitting on the sand in the bay. i'll also take some picture up close of this one.