You are making error regarding F18 rules
-1- mast height is limited in the F18 class rules (to 9.15 mtr to be precise)
-2- SCHRS does not rate daggerboard area, only it aspect ratio (as I wrote earlier in a different post)
For these two reasons alone your example is wrong. As a matter of fact by having small boards you can NOT get a slower handicap at all. Actually you get a handicap that is rather too fast for our boat, the one that is accurate for a design with normal sized boards.
Scooby, please forgive me but research the matter more thoroughly before making baseless statements. You are only creating wild rumours and correcting these obvious errors in your reasoning is simply a waste of time of the others.
So please, study the class rules of F18/tornadp class and others and investigate how SCHRS (and other systems) really work internally.
Wouter
Oh FFS I give up;
I made one small error on aspect vs area. People
know the Capricorn is faster and all SCHRS is trying to do is equalise this in the rules. I
believe SCHRS is going to address this. I don't know how, but I am assuming each F18, so Hawk, Capricorn, Tiger, Nacra (old), Nacra F18 and Illusion etc will have a SCHRS number for handicap racing.
I re-state again. The F18 rules do not measure and control the same things that SCHRS does; thus there is a cproblem with the handicap of the F18 within SCHRS. SCHRS are addressing this.
Wouter I had not seen the 9.15mtr rule in the F18 rules for the mast; However, there SCHRS parm is the Vertical luff on the mailsail (and Jib) and this is stated at 8.5 (5.2) in the current SCHRS calc. Are you stating that all mainsails on f18's are 8.5mtr luff and so this does not need taking into account (I don't see that you are).
I am not a member of the SCHRS ctte or do I have any control over the rule. It's not my rule I just want to discuss it and it's short comings with regard to the F18 situation and how (I hope) it will be fixed.
I believe that we are getting bogged down in scantics; I'll apologise for my minor mistake on area of plates and the max mast size. [color:"red"]
BUT, please consider this:
"Are the current crop of F18's (Capricorn, Illusion and the newer Tigers) faster boats than the old boats with old rigs ?"
I say yes, the reasons I say yes are :
Development of the class as a whole, construction and mast shapes and the like, mainsail shapes, VLM and plates.
so, should the handicap's of either the F18, or all other boats, be adjusted in the light of the fact that the F18's have got faster?
I again believe yes.
SCHRS and Texel were created to allow new designs to be given a rating "out of the box" and perhaps the rating parms need changing
[/color]Discuss.
