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Re: eXploder 23, mini-trans tri.. [Re: Jake] #100043
04/13/07 06:59 PM
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It'll be going on my "things to buy when I win the lottery" list. One of these days <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />


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Re: eXploder 23, mini-trans tri.. [Re: Karl_Brogger] #100044
04/15/07 07:50 AM
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Bang for buck, I think I would still look at the Corsair/Farrier line.


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Re: eXploder 23, mini-trans tri.. [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #100045
04/16/07 05:57 PM
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...Many unexpected technical problems appeared during execution of the project, which resulted in much longer realization time...


I've been there, or, better, I AM there.
For that price you can have my boat, that is, IF it is ever finished...

Luiz


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Re: eXploder 23, mini-trans tri.. [Re: Jake] #100046
04/16/07 06:04 PM
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Agreed. Unless they succeed in making a decent self righting system. That would allow pushing it to the limit. Then the "smallest and fastest self righting boat in the world" would be sold at a premium. In France, though...


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Re: eXploder 23, mini-trans tri.. [Re: Luiz] #100047
04/21/07 02:19 AM
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Another message from the builders/developers:

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concerning the Exploder we are now making sailing test and will be on
Carnac France beguinning of May ...
Tests sailing are very good , just we have some delay for hydraulic system
beam ...

Price could be arround 85000€ ready to sail ... we are calculate now ;-)


Delay with the hydraulic beam system.. Not surprising. This will be an interesting story to follow.

Re: eXploder 23, mini-trans tri.. [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #100048
04/21/07 07:10 PM
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Tests sailing are very good , just we have some delay for hydraulic system
beam ...


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Sailing tests are ok, but it will take forever to find a hydraulic system that is light enough to keep the boat floating on its lines.

In order to be able to self-right the boat, the whole hydraulic setup, with tubes, pumps and energy sources, can easily result heavier than the rig. Perhaps even heavier than the entire boat.

Luiz


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Re: eXploder 23, mini-trans tri.. [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #100049
04/23/07 02:13 PM
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I am taking my boys to Eurocat Carnac this weekend so I will be on the lookout for this machine [Hunt it down if necessary] and report back . must charge up my camera.

La Trinite [just along the beach] is one of my favourite spots on the planet. Its a multihull heaven. Not sailing in Eurocat this year so I can compensate with lots of snooping around!

Au Revoir!


Paul

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Re: eXploder 23, mini-trans tri.. [Re: Luiz] #100050
04/23/07 03:25 PM
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I would suspect any hydraulics would be run by a hand pump...like a car jack stand. No need for an engine-operated pump & fuel source...plus making sure it can work while inverted <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />




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Tests sailing are very good , just we have some delay for hydraulic system
beam ...


Read:

Sailing tests are ok, but it will take forever to find a hydraulic system that is light enough to keep the boat floating on its lines.

In order to be able to self-right the boat, the whole hydraulic setup, with tubes, pumps and energy sources, can easily result heavier than the rig. Perhaps even heavier than the entire boat.

Luiz


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Re: eXploder 23, mini-trans tri.. [Re: Tornado] #100051
04/24/07 09:38 AM
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I would suspect any hydraulics would be run by a hand pump...like a car jack stand. No need for an engine-operated pump & fuel source...plus making sure it can work while inverted


That's correct if you want to right the boat using the hydraulics. If you want it to SELF right, though, you'll need an automatically activated pump.


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Re: eXploder 23, mini-trans tri.. [Re: Luiz] #100052
04/24/07 03:57 PM
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Well, let's agree to disagree on what is meant by "self right".

My Tornado w. carbon mast can be "self-righted" with me leaning off the striker... outside assistance not needed.


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I would suspect any hydraulics would be run by a hand pump...like a car jack stand. No need for an engine-operated pump & fuel source...plus making sure it can work while inverted


That's correct if you want to right the boat using the hydraulics. If you want it to SELF right, though, you'll need an automatically activated pump.


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Re: eXploder 23, mini-trans tri.. [Re: Tornado] #100053
04/25/07 04:13 PM
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Well, let's agree to disagree on what is meant by "self right".

My Tornado w. carbon mast can be "self-righted" with me leaning off the striker... outside assistance not needed.


Understood and agreed. I call "self-right" what you would call "automatic self-right".

I like to think that this boat was designed to right itself without any action from the crew - much like a ballasted monohull. With multihull speed and monohull self-right (or automatic self-right) capability, it would beat monohulls in each and every point = complete supremacy!

Dream BIG!


Luiz
Re: eXploder 23, mini-trans tri.. [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #100054
06/07/07 03:28 PM
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there are sailing pictures up on the website

Re: eXploder 23, mini-trans tri.. [Re: ] #100055
12/11/07 02:29 AM
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There has been some months now, and it seems like the project has met more trouble than anticipated. At least no success stories on their website. I tought perhaps it was worth to revive this thread after reading about the french who recently crossed the pond on a 20 foot special purpose beachcat. They went over, and righted their boat.

"Latest" news about the Exploder 23 (25) tri: http://www.exploder.info/eng/content/view/19/125/

There is also a youtube video of the boat, now dubbed to the Explorer 25. http://youtube.com/watch?v=KB9uzwjO11I

Re: eXploder 23, mini-trans tri.. [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #100056
12/16/07 03:07 AM
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Just found out, the boat is for sale for EUR69000. Ref: http://www.multihull.de/markt/sportboote.htm

I suppose the project is at an end then. No record attempts over the atlantic and no successful self-righting.

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