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Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn | It'll be going on my "things to buy when I win the lottery" list. One of these days <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
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#100044 04/15/07 07:50 AM 04/15/07 07:50 AM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Bang for buck, I think I would still look at the Corsair/Farrier line.
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Posts: 1,307 Asuncion, Paraguay | ...Many unexpected technical problems appeared during execution of the project, which resulted in much longer realization time... I've been there, or, better, I AM there. For that price you can have my boat, that is, IF it is ever finished... Luiz
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Posts: 1,307 Asuncion, Paraguay | Agreed. Unless they succeed in making a decent self righting system. That would allow pushing it to the limit. Then the "smallest and fastest self righting boat in the world" would be sold at a premium. In France, though...
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#100047 04/21/07 02:19 AM 04/21/07 02:19 AM |
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Posts: 4,451 West coast of Norway | Another message from the builders/developers: concerning the Exploder we are now making sailing test and will be on Carnac France beguinning of May ... Tests sailing are very good , just we have some delay for hydraulic system beam ...
Price could be arround 85000€ ready to sail ... we are calculate now ;-)
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Posts: 1,307 Asuncion, Paraguay | Tests sailing are very good , just we have some delay for hydraulic system beam ... Read: Sailing tests are ok, but it will take forever to find a hydraulic system that is light enough to keep the boat floating on its lines. In order to be able to self-right the boat, the whole hydraulic setup, with tubes, pumps and energy sources, can easily result heavier than the rig. Perhaps even heavier than the entire boat. Luiz
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Posts: 1,203 uk | I am taking my boys to Eurocat Carnac this weekend so I will be on the lookout for this machine [Hunt it down if necessary] and report back . must charge up my camera.
La Trinite [just along the beach] is one of my favourite spots on the planet. Its a multihull heaven. Not sailing in Eurocat this year so I can compensate with lots of snooping around!
Au Revoir!
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#100050 04/23/07 03:25 PM 04/23/07 03:25 PM |
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Posts: 1,200 Vancouver, BC | I would suspect any hydraulics would be run by a hand pump...like a car jack stand. No need for an engine-operated pump & fuel source...plus making sure it can work while inverted <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Tests sailing are very good , just we have some delay for hydraulic system beam ... Read: Sailing tests are ok, but it will take forever to find a hydraulic system that is light enough to keep the boat floating on its lines. In order to be able to self-right the boat, the whole hydraulic setup, with tubes, pumps and energy sources, can easily result heavier than the rig. Perhaps even heavier than the entire boat. Luiz
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Posts: 1,307 Asuncion, Paraguay | I would suspect any hydraulics would be run by a hand pump...like a car jack stand. No need for an engine-operated pump & fuel source...plus making sure it can work while inverted That's correct if you want to right the boat using the hydraulics. If you want it to SELF right, though, you'll need an automatically activated pump.
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#100052 04/24/07 03:57 PM 04/24/07 03:57 PM |
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Posts: 1,200 Vancouver, BC | Well, let's agree to disagree on what is meant by "self right". My Tornado w. carbon mast can be "self-righted" with me leaning off the striker... outside assistance not needed. I would suspect any hydraulics would be run by a hand pump...like a car jack stand. No need for an engine-operated pump & fuel source...plus making sure it can work while inverted That's correct if you want to right the boat using the hydraulics. If you want it to SELF right, though, you'll need an automatically activated pump.
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#100053 04/25/07 04:13 PM 04/25/07 04:13 PM |
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Posts: 1,307 Asuncion, Paraguay | Well, let's agree to disagree on what is meant by "self right".
My Tornado w. carbon mast can be "self-righted" with me leaning off the striker... outside assistance not needed. Understood and agreed. I call "self-right" what you would call "automatic self-right". I like to think that this boat was designed to right itself without any action from the crew - much like a ballasted monohull. With multihull speed and monohull self-right (or automatic self-right) capability, it would beat monohulls in each and every point = complete supremacy! Dream BIG!
Luiz
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Posts: 4,451 West coast of Norway | There has been some months now, and it seems like the project has met more trouble than anticipated. At least no success stories on their website. I tought perhaps it was worth to revive this thread after reading about the french who recently crossed the pond on a 20 foot special purpose beachcat. They went over, and righted their boat. "Latest" news about the Exploder 23 (25) tri: http://www.exploder.info/eng/content/view/19/125/There is also a youtube video of the boat, now dubbed to the Explorer 25. http://youtube.com/watch?v=KB9uzwjO11I | | |
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