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[Re: troylawson]
#100604 03/13/07 06:02 PM 03/13/07 06:02 PM |
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn Karl_Brogger
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Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn | Don't buy a Trail-Ex. I had one, hated it. Lookes like it was made from a erector set. Pulled like one too.
I'm boatless.
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[Re: Karl_Brogger]
#100605 03/14/07 10:28 AM 03/14/07 10:28 AM |
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 306 St. Louis, MO hobienick
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Posts: 306 St. Louis, MO | I am going to strongly disagree about the Trailex. I have one now and have had it for about 4 years. I have done at least one 500 mile trip each year. I love it. It is substantially lighter (the shipping ticket said 200 lbs). Much esier to attach things to it than a steel trailer and I don't have to worry about drilling holes into it that will rust during the first season. I usually launch in salt or brackish water. If you have a 16' boat I would get the trailer for the 18'. the toungue goes the entier length of the trailer and really stiffens it up. I naddition to my TheMightyHobie18 I also carry a trailerbox full of my hand tools for repairs, the sails/boom, 4 dagger baords, and the rudder assembly. It comes around 900 lbs with all my stuff on it (including the trailer weight).
One more thing, I had my delivered to my work in peices and assembled it myself in about 2 hours without evver seeing one in person before.
I couldn't be happier.
Nick
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Previous Boats '84 H16 '82 H18 Magnum '74 Pearson 30 St. Louis, MO
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[Re: hobienick]
#100606 03/14/07 04:14 PM 03/14/07 04:14 PM |
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn Karl_Brogger
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Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn | I will say it is possible that mine was just worn out, and I am all for aluminum trailers, but I like said I hated mine. I like trailers to pull straight, and smooth. Mine did neither. The boat rocked back and forth as you went down the road. I had numerous brackets that failed and I had them welded back together. The Extrusion on the tounge started to rip the hitch coupler away. Many people have said they like their's so maybe mine was just shot.
I'm boatless.
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[Re: Karl_Brogger]
#100607 03/15/07 10:40 AM 03/15/07 10:40 AM |
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Posts: 306 St. Louis, MO | If you towed with a van or large SUV that may have caused the whipping I think you are describing. I've seen trailex trailers 30 years old that are still going strong.
Nick
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Previous Boats '84 H16 '82 H18 Magnum '74 Pearson 30 St. Louis, MO
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[Re: hobienick]
#100608 03/15/07 11:13 AM 03/15/07 11:13 AM |
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn Karl_Brogger
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Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn | Dodge diesel 3/4 pickup. And an S10 pickup. Actually worse behind the S10. The hulls stuck out past the sides of the pickup about an inch.
I'm boatless.
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[Re: Karl_Brogger]
#100609 03/16/07 11:04 AM 03/16/07 11:04 AM |
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Posts: 306 St. Louis, MO | I used to tow my H16 with an '86 S10 2.3L. I then switched to a VW Passat 1.8L turbo. It was a huge improvement. But, when I bought my TheMightyHobie18 I noticed that the entire hull stuck out past my car. It kills my milage, but it tows very well.
It sound like you may have gotten a lemon.
Nick
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Previous Boats '84 H16 '82 H18 Magnum '74 Pearson 30 St. Louis, MO
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[Re: hobienick]
#100610 03/16/07 03:31 PM 03/16/07 03:31 PM |
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn Karl_Brogger
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Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn | It's very possible that it was past its prime. I have know idea how old it was. Just that I hated it. I'm hoping this spring I'll have the money to have a custom trailer built from aluminum. The frame alone is going to run about $1500 to have built. I'm going to use some composite decking, (like they use on houses), that I got for free under the boat and on the angled parts of the tounge for extra storage. A torsion axle which should make it ride quite nicely. And LED lights all around. I'm hoping it stays under $2500. Everytime I think I can have it built something comes up and I can't afford it.
I'm boatless.
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[Re: Karl_Brogger]
#100612 03/16/07 04:11 PM 03/16/07 04:11 PM |
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Posts: 44 Minnesota | in my extensive towing expirence anything with a shorter wheelbase will cause a trailer to "fishtail" the heavier the load the worse the sway, also if the loaded traier is significantly undersized for the vehicle then it will sway too. so the 3/4 ton was too big and the s10 was too small, think of Goldylocks here people the correct vehicle for the load is key, for example never use a 1989 Full size Ford Bronco to haul a 16 foot flat bed trailer with a skidloader and 3 tons of pea rocks!!!
When i was your age Pluto was a planet
Blake Johnson
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[Re: mmiller]
#100614 03/16/07 04:57 PM 03/16/07 04:57 PM |
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Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn | I never really had much weight on the trailer. Box on the tounge for gear, a sailtube running the lenght of the trailer, and a cat-trax. As far as tow vehicles go, a 300hp, 560 ft/lb diesel pickup is a bit of overkill. But I can pull that skidloader no problem. My other vehicle is an 84' fiero. It's like driving a skateboard I don't even want to think of the consequences on a windy day towing the boat with that. I used to strap the mast crutch to the bow tangs to keep that from swaying too much also. I will say this, I pulled that trailer 2800 miles round trip to S. Padre and didn't have anything go wrong, except for running outta gas once in Iowa.
I'm boatless.
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[Re: mmiller]
#100616 03/19/07 10:47 AM 03/19/07 10:47 AM |
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Posts: 306 St. Louis, MO | If you are thinking about getting a custom aluminum trailer made, I would look at the Trailex again. I bought my trailer for and 18' cat for about $1300, unassembled. I added the aftermast stand and an aluminum box last year. I plan on adding teh composite decking down the road. All of this will be well under $2000 (if you get the decking for free, then it will be under $1500) including the LED's if I decide to add those. You will have the same issues with the custom trailer as you will with the Trailex. Plus, you will then have to worry about the welds failing. I am a fan of mechanical fasteners when I can use them.
I have been working with Trailex on a modification to my after mast stand this week. They have been extreamly helpful and the parts they sell are not bad on price. I told them what I wanted to do and they found the components for me. It's much easier to buy them from Trailex than to make them myself.
Just some food for thought.
Just some food for thought.
Nick
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Previous Boats '84 H16 '82 H18 Magnum '74 Pearson 30 St. Louis, MO
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[Re: hobienick]
#100617 03/19/07 04:23 PM 03/19/07 04:23 PM |
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn Karl_Brogger
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Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn | Aluminum when welded "should" be much more rigid than steel all said and done. I'm having it way overbuilt also. The tounge is going to run the lenght of the trailer, (like on the larger trailex), it will be .25" wall, 2"x4". The rest will be same dimension just .125" wall. I've got so much bracing planned into it it's silly. Plus the trailer alone will be just over 20' long. I'm hoping that will add some stability with a longer wheelbase. My experince with other trailers, car, skidloader, enclosed etc. tells me I should have a torsion axle. Plus I have some cut-offs from comp tip refits for the mast crutch. How cool is that? I know its probably stupid to spend that kind of money on a cat trailer but I'm single, no kids, do fairly well financially, so why not. Fool and his money......what?
I'm boatless.
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[Re: Karl_Brogger]
#100618 03/20/07 10:25 AM 03/20/07 10:25 AM |
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Posts: 306 St. Louis, MO | I remember those days... So far I only have a wife who, for now, loves the cat. I'm trying to buy all of my toys before we have kids. At least I should have a chance to keep them (I may be way off on that one).
Post some pics when it's done.
Nick
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Previous Boats '84 H16 '82 H18 Magnum '74 Pearson 30 St. Louis, MO
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