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#104080 05/03/07 04:34 AM 05/03/07 04:34 AM |
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Posts: 396 Annapolis Md. | Joanna - Sure, I will forward it to you.
Tom - Jax is 12 hrs from Naptown, GYC is 16 hrs. So Fl trips aren't easy for us but definately inviting.
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#104082 05/03/07 07:02 AM 05/03/07 07:02 AM |
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Maybe Spring Fever 2008 is the most central location to all of the F16's in the south-east USA ?
Certainly looks like about equidistant from alabama, florida and MD.
Wouter
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#104083 05/03/07 07:28 AM 05/03/07 07:28 AM |
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Posts: 404 Chattanooga, TN | Rick came from Toronto with his new Blade to Spring Fever this year. It is a great location, regatta with three days of racing and lots of boats. It would be wonderful to get at bunch of F16's there.
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#104086 05/03/07 02:09 PM 05/03/07 02:09 PM |
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Trey,
I've made some room now, so fire away.
Wouter
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#104087 05/04/07 01:06 PM 05/04/07 01:06 PM |
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,121 Eastern NC, USA tshan
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Posts: 1,121 Eastern NC, USA | CrewDog (Lucky Duck???), How far is Duck, NC from you guys? I'll be vacationing in Nags Head, NC in the middle of June. Duck YC/OBXCC host a regatta on one of those weekends (June 9/10). It might be enough incentive to haul the boat up there this year.... http://www.norbanks.com/Duck_Yacht_Club_OBXCC.htm click on events on the left side for more info.
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#104088 05/05/07 05:30 AM 05/05/07 05:30 AM |
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Posts: 396 Annapolis Md. | Yep, aka Lucky Duck. I can't make the June 9/10 weekend. The Outer Banks are about 6 hrs south of us and I've done the event on the A Cat. Very good people there and one of the best sailing grounds around. The bay side (sound) is shallow in some areas but nice sand bottoim, great breeze (thats why the Wright Bro's were there) and flat water. This is one of the best places around to learn kiteboarding, windsurfing and hang gliding to name a few. If you take the Blade make contact with Jon beforehand to see whats what. Ed
Still hazey after all these beers. F-16 Falcon #212
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#104090 05/05/07 07:20 AM 05/05/07 07:20 AM |
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Still hazey after all these beers. F-16 Falcon #212
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#104091 05/05/07 09:31 AM 05/05/07 09:31 AM |
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | Ed,
I would love to hear a personal comparison from you between the A and the Blade F16. After a couple of times sailing that is and then again after 1 or 2 seasons getting to know the Blade well.
I ask this of other A-cat to F16 sailors as well. I find this very interesting. One guy could only produce "They are totally uncomparable, in every aspect", but couldn't elaborate.
I find it increasingly interesting to find out why two boat that are still quite close in specs can still be so far apart in one on one comparison. Not to say one is better then another but apparently the two are jsut so different in feel.
So when you have the time ...
Wouter
Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
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#104092 05/05/07 02:59 PM 05/05/07 02:59 PM |
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Posts: 62 | OK Wouter, I will take a stab at it. Upwind the boat sailed more like an A than any other boat I have sailed. Not quite as responsive, but we were able to get the same feeling of the boat squirting forward in the gusts and not just healing more. The balance was not as good and we were back at the rear beam, which produced rear beam slapping on occasion (upwind). That really stopped the boat, but we wanted to keep the bows up in those conditions. One race sailed in light conditions, which meant we were either on the boat, single, trapped, or double trapped. The boat came to life just when I would expect it too, as opposed to a Hobie Tiger that feels very underpowered in single trap and below conditions. Downwind we were pushing the boat more than we should have and went over twice. Most teams were sailing low and safe. After we went to this mode we did better. On the A I would have felt more like I was racing/ pushing the boat to get an advantage. This was fast, but not quite the same gut feeling as when you are in the groove downwind on an A. I think there would be a wind range where F16 is more fun, possibly between 5 and 10. After that and the A is challenge (read fun for me) to go as fast as the boat is capable, and before that and there is not enough power in the spinnaker to make it worth the extra hassle of rigging and crew work. Summery: For a two up boat there in no question this would be my first choice, if there were a fleet of good racers in my area. For single. I think I would stick with the A. For versatility, again no question..the F16 wins.
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