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Making up the tally after today. [Re: Wouter] #104824
04/26/07 05:59 PM
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Making up the tally after today.

Updated to and including race 4 :


Smiles all around at Team John^2

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Clearly the teams going for victory are :

1st John Casey / John Williams 4 points overall

2nd John Lovell / Katy Pilley-Lovel 8 points overall

3rd John Tomko / Tiffany Tomko NOT LESS then 10 points overall (capsize) so could be 4th or lower now

4th Kenny Pierce / Leandro Spina 11 points overall


Team Lovell is one of the two male-female teams in the top 4 and doing very well indeed at 2nd place. And hey look ! There is one of those F16 midgets everybody talks about.


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That capsize costed team Tomko dearly as the report says that they flipped right at the finish after leading that entire race. That must have hurt. If they get back up and finished 4th then they will still be 3rd otherwise they drop further down the listing

Such a pity for this mixed team

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Team Pierce / Spina is only the second all male team in the top 4.

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Sadly :

Teams Olli Jason / Kelly Jason (17.5 or more) and Bill Gillespie / Colin Page (18 or more) are losing contact with the leaders. The rest is pretty much out of contention by now as these crews have all scored over 27 points allready.


Wouter

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Re: Never mind that mast, darling ... [Re: Mary] #104825
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Those poor chaps could have had PERFECT sail trim for the whole race EXCEPT at that moment, and some group of armchair commodores are gonna bust their balls about it?

I don't see anything wrong with analyzing a photograph. Still photos are excellent teaching tools. The identity of the sailors, the ability of the sailors, and the context of the situation are not really pertinent in discussing the photo itself. There is no way to be judgmental about it. It just shows what it shows, as far as mast rotation and leech twist. No way to say whether this was good or bad in that particular situation, that particular second in time. The photo can still be analyzed, just on its own merits in a generic kind of way -- like a file photo that a magazine pulls out for an article to illustrate a certain type of trim.

What is bad is when people start criticizing the sailors based upon that photo.


I agree 100% that photos and video can be excellent teaching tools, but the statement that you can divorse the sailors for from the photo is complete rubish! Again, these sailors didn't ask to be reviewed by a bunch of forum divers.


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Re: Never mind that mast, darling ... [Re: David Ingram] #104826
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Again, these sailors didn't ask to be reviewed by a bunch of forum divers.



Nor did they ask you to act as their protector. And certainly nobody asked you to judge on the postings in this thread. So why don't you just stop camouflaging the venting of your own frustration as something more noble.

Geez ! We are just having some fun here.

Nobody has any idea who those sailors are, can we even tell ? In the second picture we surely can not, the resolution is far too small.

Go out and do some sailing, or pop some Lithium before you get a heart attack or blow a brain attery.

Wouter

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Re: Making up the tally after today. [Re: Wouter] #104827
04/26/07 06:45 PM
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Way to go John and Tiffany. TCDYC is pulling for you.

Doug and Ashleigh

Official tally after 4 races is in as well ... [Re: Wouter] #104828
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Go to :

http://www.ussailing.org/championships/adult/usmhc/alter07/07results%20thru%20race4.pdf

Sadly Team Tomko couldn't prevent teams Jason and Korz from slipping across the finishline before they could right the boat and finish themselfs. That lead turned into a 6th place in race 4 and that sees them switching places in the overall listing with team Pierce/Spina.

The wind just keeps honking mind you. In last two races it was 20 knots and 19 knots. At no race so far has the wind been less then 14 knots.

This is hard work for the teams.


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It is also interesting to note how the daily report mentions :

"Blades have been a good choice of boat for this event because all team weights can do well."

Source : http://www.ussailing.org/championships/adult/usmhc/alter07/Daily%20Update/Daily%20Report.asp

Wouter

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Re: Official tally after 4 races is in as well ... [Re: Wouter] #104829
04/26/07 07:32 PM
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Wouter, I will guess that what is wrong with your picture is this; there is little wind yet the boat is on it's side, so you must have been trying to fix something up the mast? Stuck spin. halyard or something?


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Re: Official tally after 4 races is in as well ... [Re: Wouter] #104830
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Hat is still on after the capsize?
No harness or lifejacket?

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Re: Official tally after 4 races is in as well ... [Re: Dan_Delave] #104831
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I think the offcenter pole is due to the lower hull being in the water more at the bow. It makes the starboard hull look shorter than the port.


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Re: Never mind that mast, darling ... [Re: Wouter] #104832
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Nor did they ask you to act as their protector. And certainly nobody asked you to judge on the postings in this thread.


I asked everyone at dinner tonight, they would like Dave to act as both protector and judge from all Wouterisms.

Re: Never mind that mast, darling ... [Re: BrianK] #104833
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Hey Brian, how about a little play by play? How's everyone like the Blade?


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Re: Never mind that mast, darling ... [Re: BrianK] #104834
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(they would like Dave to act as both protector and judge from all Wouterisms)

Dave is wise. Dave knows best. Dave will protect me and my friends. Dave is not FAD.


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Re: Alright, I'll bite ...... [Re: Wouter] #104835
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Alright, you tell me whats wrong with this picture ?

The BBQ isn't lit.


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Re: Alright, I'll bite ...... [Re: Wouter] #104836
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Bad choice of paint color?

Re: Alright, I'll bite ...... [Re: ejpoulsen] #104837
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From my armchair it looks like there is a sea critter on the main sail.


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Re: Alright, I'll bite ...... [Re: Kris Hathaway] #104838
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Ummm, no wind?


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Re: Work that sheet baby ! [Re: MauganN20] #104839
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It scares me that you think I'm like Wouter <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


You and Wouter have both posted pictures in forums while sailing in no wind. You two are more alike than you think.

Re: Work that sheet baby ! [Re: drbinkle] #104840
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It looks like there will be pretty good wind again today for the Alter Cup. A weak cold front is approaching which will bring the wind out of the South West, here in Tampa (stuck at another horse show) it is blowing about 15 right now.

The front is not supposed to bring much rain, just a few showers here and there, then the wind should swith to North West as it passes. Temps today around 86 low of 66 tonight, high of 84 tomorrow, don't know what the wind will be for Saturday yet.

It's rare to get 4 days of good wind all in a row down here so this has been great. I hope it holds for tomorrow. Good Luck AC Boys and Girls. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Work that sheet baby ! [Re: Timbo] #104841
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You and Wouter have both posted pictures in forums while sailing in no wind. You two are more alike than you think.


The difference is my picture was taken while the boat was on the beach.

Wouter, well, I'll give him more credit than that picture does <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: Broken mast at Alter Cup [Re: ejpoulsen] #104842
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I know Jake is just sitting around drinking beer and all in Melbourne so where are the pics on the USSailing site??? Tell him to get off his...
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Re: Broken mast at Alter Cup [Re: PTP] #104843
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Lots of knots seem to come untied down there... must be slipery water!
<img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Hey... if you want to complain... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Can somebody teach somebody how the hell to tie a bowline... and give them a roll of electrical tape!

What a great event with real time coverage... Super job by Jake, Darline and the team!


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