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Re: Juana's [Re: Thomm225] #116551
09/10/07 04:25 PM
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Round the Island is now in June, that is correct. Info will be available at www.fwyc.org. Ft. Walton is hosting a Tri-Maran shootout the weekend of September 29th. Tri's from all over the nation, the week after the Noods. Come check it out.

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Re: Juana's [Re: hoofhearted] #116552
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My point is that the race(RTI) should still be in September. When you come down here from a place like Memphis, TN and see beaches that are not totally crowded and all sorts of fish and wildlife that you have never even thought possible(except now maybe on that show Planet Earth) It's just really an awesome and worthwhile vacation........

Re: Juana's [Re: Wouter] #116553
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So guys,

How about a race report from Juana's ?

Results, Hero's, Zero's, the works !

Wouter


Sorry, I was too far back! Maybe if we beg the folks at Juana's they will post the overall results. We all started together, it would be nice to see how it all shook out.

In any case, I'll be back next year. The must do list includes: Tradewinds, JPOR, Daytona and Juana's.

This has to be one of the top venues in the SE U.S.

Thanks to the regatta organizers for a job very well done. And thanks to Bob Curry for spending some time with us. He is very generous in sharing his experience.

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Re: Juana's [Re: TedZ] #116554
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Video footage; Two F16's leading the Curry F17 under spinnaker, priceless !

Can I have some more of FAD, eehh that !

Still, good to see that Bob is getting challenged, must be alot more enjoyable for him as well.
Is Bob sailing with the 19 sq. mtr big boy spinnaker or the standard F17 one ?

Wouter


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Re: Juana's [Re: Wouter] #116555
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I would guess the standard spinnaker. It appeared smaller than ours.

He has the flattest mainsail I've ever seen! I honestly would not have believed you could get a sail that flat! There is a shot in the video where, viewed from astern, Bob's sail almost disappears. I remember thinking, " that sail should be called a Blade."

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Video from the regatta
Some nice video of Bob Curry's F17


That is some great footage on how to sail a boat upwind (uni or double). A lot to be learned from it.

The full regatta clip had a lot of other action in it that has been edited out (unbelievably the edited clip still showed a few seconds of downwind action that had other boats in it). Too bad b/c there would have been some not so good footage on how to sail upwind (for comparative purposes, of course). <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Juana's [Re: tshan] #116557
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nice video. really makes you look at how you set up your trap lines to make sure you are perpendicular to the mast. Works well in smooth water, not so much if there is a lot of chop.

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He uses a high/low dog bone for that very reason.

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What do you mean? Like a stainless dog bone? With the stopper knot on my trap set up you could adjust it but isn't something you could do quickly. It would be nice to see that set up. Doubt he would post pics though.

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Is it "the FAD" we see go upwind? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Nice trapeezing, but look at the mainsheet and mast. Looks like mainsheet is very tight, and that's probably where his windward ability lies.

Like have been said, trapeezing that low is difficult in large waves. You will not fly a hull all the time, and then it is very easy to be washed overboard. Setting skippers trapeze static in that height while leaving the crew free to adjust his trapeze can be an exercise in how to manage your teamwork in strong winds..

Juana's look very nice! Seeing events like that while we have 9degC outside is tough.

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What do you mean? Like a stainless dog bone? With the stopper knot on my trap set up you could adjust it but isn't something you could do quickly. It would be nice to see that set up. Doubt he would post pics though.


http://murrays.com/archive/48.pdf Item G. Lots of people use it. You just hook into the round end when there is chop, the longer end as needed.

I was not able to find it at the Online Store.

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same thing could be done with item F

Re: Juana's [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #116563
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Is it "the FAD" we see go upwind? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Nice trapeezing, but look at the mainsheet and mast. Looks like mainsheet is very tight, and that's probably where his windward ability lies.


The Bobster never sails in any single mode. He is about as constant as the wind is. He changes up that mainsheet as the wind changes, and it is easier said than done(to do it correctly). (and that's not the only thing he changes)

My point is that the quote statement above might get some guy to thinking............
" That's it! Next time I'll just sheet tight and point right with that FAD guy and kick his butt!!" Ahh, .........I doubt it. Simply sheeting tight ain't a quick fix.


I think his upwind sailing ability just might have something to do with the 30 years or so that he has been sailing catamarans with and against some of the best sailors anywhere.

If you really want to go up against the Master Uni Fad guy at his best, try it after a strong cold front has gone through say in early spring when the wind is shifting all over the place. The wind was relatively constant at HWJuana's Saturday.

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Re: Juana's [Re: Thomm225] #116565
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I think his upwind sailing ability just might have something to do with the 30 years or so that he has been sailing catamarans with and against some of the best sailors anywhere.


No doubt about it. Whole post is true.

I think Rolf just wanted confirmation that the video was a commercial for Bob. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Is it "the FAD" we see go upwind? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Nice trapeezing, but look at the mainsheet and mast. Looks like mainsheet is very tight, and that's probably where his windward ability lies.


The Bobster never sails in any single mode. He is about as constant as the wind is. He changes up that mainsheet as the wind changes, and it is easier said than done(to do it correctly). (and that's not the only thing he changes)

My point is that the quote statement above might get some guy to thinking............
" That's it! Next time I'll just sheet tight and point right with that FAD guy and kick his butt!!" Ahh, .........I doubt it. Simply sheeting tight ain't a quick fix.


I think his upwind sailing ability just might have something to do with the 30 years or so that he has been sailing catamarans with and against some of the best sailors anywhere.

If you really want to go up against the Master Uni Fad guy at his best, try it after a strong cold front has gone through say in early spring when the wind is shifting all over the place. The wind was relatively constant at HWJuana's Saturday.


Jeez! You deleted your smart butt post! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

I had a great come back. Now I can't use it.

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Re: Juana's [Re: fin.] #116567
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Hey.......HWhat's the deal with this cushy F16U rating of 67.1? Jees! The F17 is like 150 lb's heavier than the F16 and has a rating of 66.7 ..........

Our good buddy Wouter always used the rating of 65.2 like it was for 1 or 2 up.

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Our good buddy Wouter always used the rating of 65.2 like it was for 1 or 2 up.



And even that rating is a peach !

Wouter


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I was just thinking about RTI next year. On prevailing wind days, it's mostly a spinnaker run all the way around for the most part..............." Them " F16 guys are gonna be chomping at the bit to race F17's in a race where there's not much upwind racing to worry about.


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The norm is to race the F16 at 65.2, no matter the configuration.

The F17 I saw this past weekend was MUCH faster than 66.1 (?, didn't check the decimal). <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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