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#125301 12/05/07 09:25 PM 12/05/07 09:25 PM |
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Posts: 201 Adelaide South Australia | fair comment robi. I would of thought that Glasser would be able to make exactly what you want as he has very good knowledge of A class sails and they are not that different.A sail at around $1300 USD is not a bad price.I have found eBay a good source for brand new parts at 50% off.good luck with new boat hope to see pic soon.
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#125302 12/05/07 09:37 PM 12/05/07 09:37 PM |
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,121 Eastern NC, USA tshan
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Posts: 1,121 Eastern NC, USA | I inquired at Glaser about a uni cut F16 sail and kind of got the "all our sails are cut to F16 standards and are great for 1-up or 2-up sailing, computer generated, yada yada yada". They did not seem real interested in a flatter 1-up sail. I didn't push the point, but just kinda shrugged it off. Their website talks about A-Cat sails cut to crew weight and mast type, but the F16 section talks about a standard cut from Bill Gates.
Rumor has it that Smyth has a wing mast section from our friends in Titusville and might be building sails... I wonder if he...... nah, nevermind. Forget I said anything..... It was complete rumor....
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#125303 12/05/07 09:58 PM 12/05/07 09:58 PM |
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Posts: 2,921 Michigan | I got the same from Glaser also.... In their defense, their main is flatter than my Ullman and is nicely depowered easily. I do like it and I probably wouldn't be able to utilize the possible performance difference anyway.
And I think Smyth has had that mast for a long time...
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Posts: 201 Adelaide South Australia | Why don't you try Ashby sails he makes what you want and he has been making Taipan,F16 and A class sails. Ashby normally asked your weight, type of mast section, if it's a uni cut sail and what material you want it made out off. The sail are around $1550.00 AUS plus battens and freight. Gary has one of his sails and could give you more detail. | | | Re: If you were to build an f16...
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#125305 12/05/07 10:47 PM 12/05/07 10:47 PM |
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Posts: 2,718 St Petersburg FL | Why don't you try Ashby sails he makes what you want and he has been making Taipan,F16 and A class sails. Ashby normally asked your weight, type of mast section, if it's a uni cut sail and what material you want it made out off. The sail are around $1550.00 AUS plus battens and freight. Gary has one of his sails and could give you more detail. True, I PMed Gary and I PMed Phill asking about the Ashby main. I did send an email to Glen Ashby (from his website) but I assume he would be extremely busy to reply. | | | Re: If you were to build an f16...
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#125308 12/05/07 11:15 PM 12/05/07 11:15 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 890 Dunedin Causeway, FL David Parker
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Posts: 890 Dunedin Causeway, FL | The Blade and Taipan are both the same section I believe they both come from AHPC Robbie Daniel is importing (or already has) an AHPC Viper F16 with a carbon mast and it's headed your way (St. Pete). Notice that Robbie's F18 Capricorn banner ad at the top of this forum also says "F16 Viper". If another container is headed to the USA maybe you could get one of those masts (or any other AHPC parts you'd like). | | | Re: If you were to build an f16...
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Posts: 201 Adelaide South Australia | Fiberfoam both Ashby and AHPC Sarberg you can contact Steve Brewin
Robi my brother got a Goodall sail made took 2 weeks from phone call to delivery. I have used the sail and it very good i'm 80kg and sail uni. | | | Re: If you were to build an f16...
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Posts: 1,382 Essex, UK | What are all the possible mast supplier options?
These are all I can think of...
Aluminium - Taipan section from AHPC - Blade section from Blade builders
Carbon - Saarberg - Fibrefoam - Home build - Stealth [color:"red"] (and possibly the cheapest option) [/color]
I'd love a carbon one but where can I get them in Australia.
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Posts: 1,382 Essex, UK | Get 9 other F16 owners together and John_P will give you a very good price shipped to Aus. He's said it many times....
John Alani ___________ Stealth F16s GBR527 and GBR538 | | | Re: If you were to build an f16...
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#125313 12/06/07 05:20 AM 12/06/07 05:20 AM |
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Posts: 4,451 West coast of Norway | John Pierce and his Stealth Marine seem to deliver fantastic value for money. Why dont he market his products a bit more? I tried finding a breakdown on products and prices on stealthmarine.co.uk, but there wasn't much there. A cleanup on the website and some light marketing would make the products much more available in my opinion.
Back to topic. "Personalized".. I would definately go with hulls and beams from the same manufacturer. Otherwise you might have to alter the beamseats to make beams fit, which can be a lot of work. A carbon mast would be high on my list of items to get. I would also have looked at snuffers and whats available there. I do have a penchant for 'center-tube' snuffers like some of the tornados have. They look slick, but I would want one with alu-reinforcement of the opening (dont step on it). IF it was a 2-piece solution it would be even cooler. T-foils is also something I would think hard about, but lets not go there again. A bit premature still.. For sails I would have looked at the local alternatives once more. You do have Sabre Sails and Calvert there, both supposedly good multihull sailmakers. Why not buy locally and go trough the design process with the sailmaker, on-site? You can have the sails much more "personalized" then. Buying from Landenberger gets you a "stock" sail. Sitting down face to face with a saildesigner, talking about how you sail, where you sail etc. will get you a different sail. You can have the sails buildt in whatever cloth you prefer, and you can get help with the flying shape afterwards..
Other "personalization" could be on the tramp. Having it buildt to your specification, and perhaps with some graphics painted on it? How about an in-boom cascading mainsheet? Thy sky (or rather the budget) is the limit <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: If you were to build an f16...
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#125316 12/06/07 07:25 AM 12/06/07 07:25 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | If you really want a carbon mast but are worried about shipping from offshore or exchange rates, call Ben Hall, Hall Spars, he races A cats and his company builds many carbon masts. Since a F16 Uni is very near an A cat, he should be able to figure out what you need for a mast and build you one. If it catches on, we all may buy one, so use that marketing idea to temper his price if you can.
Of course, he could build you a full wing sail for about $2,000 acording to his own posts. That would be much cheaper than a carbon mast and new mainsail.
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