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#127450 01/04/08 09:37 AM 01/04/08 09:37 AM |
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Posts: 1,187 38.912, -95.37 | you simply stop when sailed imperfectly-- that means no relaxation. is a lot of work. Sounds similar to sailing a HP dingy or skiff? Devoid of the fact when you simply stop the boat capsizes, or am I over dramatizing?
John H16, H14
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#127451 01/04/08 10:37 AM 01/04/08 10:37 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 833 St. Louis, MO, Mike Hill
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Posts: 833 St. Louis, MO, | My take is that the heavier boats are easier to sail imperfect. The wing mast and low momentum in an A-class means that you simply stop when sailed imperfectly-- that means no relaxation. There are only a few controls on an A-cat, but they must all be set correctly-- when the conditions are shifty or changing, an A-cat is a lot of work. You simply don't get home in an A-cat if you are not actively sailing-- you just stop; while most heavyweight cats can be sailed like beach resort rental boats and eventually get home. Hey Matt, Been swimming in the Keys lately? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Mike Hill | | | Re: A-cat fitness levels
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#127452 01/04/08 11:24 AM 01/04/08 11:24 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | The 2-up sailing world has progressed a little since the Nacra 6.0 designs, my friend. Comparing an A-class to this Nacra 6.0 is like comparing a turn of the millenium lotus Elise to a 60's mustang.
I wouldn't sail a heavy two-up F18 or Tornado like a resort or rental boat. And I most certainly won't call 2-up boats like the Spitfire and F16's heavy.
If anything, it will be most fair to compare a modern A-class (like year bim 2000) to one of these modern 2-up cats rather then the aging Nacra 6.0.
Wouter
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Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
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#127454 01/04/08 05:13 PM 01/04/08 05:13 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 548 MERRITTISLAND, FL Matt M
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Posts: 548 MERRITTISLAND, FL | I don't know Spitfires at all and I am way too big for an 16ft boat. BS on that. Please do not take this as an attempt to persuade anyone from their choice of boat, but generic statements based on impressions or comaparisons to boats developed in the 60's are not necesarily correct. The tramp on the F16 is larger than on an A, especially when you take into account the lost room from the curved track and the boom is set higher so saying your too big for a 16 but not an A is not true. The F16 designs with additional sail area and hull volume (especially compared to a Bim2000) are significantly less sensitive to changes in weight. I have raced between 115 and 155 kg with no noticable change in performance. Keep your eyes open you may be supprised. Matt F16 A class | | | Re: A-cat fitness levels
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#127455 01/04/08 05:29 PM 01/04/08 05:29 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 75 Ljubljana, Slovenia mayhem
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Posts: 75 Ljubljana, Slovenia | You discovered my ignorance. I know nothing about F16s..... see what happens when you assume....
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#127457 01/04/08 05:47 PM 01/04/08 05:47 PM |
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn Karl_Brogger OP
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | Sailing uni is physically exhausting when the wind comes up. More so than a sloop? Why do you say this Pete? Not taking a jab, I just haven't noticed a difference in physical effort from the my H16 to the FXone is all. Unless you're talking about the spinnaker then, yeah, I agree. | | |
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