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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | How do we, as a community, get his family to change his mind? Not my problem. Obviously, this is his wife's fault. All she had to do is insist that she was going with him. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: TinCan Tri
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Posts: 1,200 Vancouver, BC | While there are similarities...Crowhurst had different motivations and pressures. He was in a financial bind with his business (nautical radio direction finding equipement) and basically got deep in hock with his sponsor who would get his business, boat & home if he failed to complete the race. A very ugly situation indeed...not all of which Crowhurst can be blamed for... This Vann guy is completely self-motivated as far as we can tell. We can only hope that when things get bad, he can make it to safety...there are no huge external pressures for him to continue beyond his limits or the boats. On my flight to the US last week I watched the movie Deep Water about Donald Crowhurst (excellent btw). Though the circumstances are different, this reminds me a lot of that.
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#129528 02/05/08 11:50 AM 02/05/08 11:50 AM |
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Posts: 297 | A few days? When I race cats, *IT'S INSTANTANEOUS*!!!! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Posts: 291 | I just finally got around to reading this guys blog. Man is he nucking futs. I always root for the underdog, just as I did for super bowl but I believe this guy is going to die. But just for fun, I will bet he does not have trip ending failure before he reaches Cape Horn buts thats where the boat will come apart and he will probably die.
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#129531 02/05/08 02:43 PM 02/05/08 02:43 PM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | I just finally got around to reading this guys blog. Man is he nucking futs. I always root for the underdog, just as I did for super bowl but I believe this guy is going to die. But just for fun, I will bet he does not have trip ending failure before he reaches Cape Horn buts thats where the boat will come apart and he will probably die. Boy are you optimistic...I think reality will set in on him long before cape horn and he bails out with a minor failure...something like he forgets a frying pan.
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Posts: 1,459 Annapolis,MD | I just finally got around to reading this guys blog. Man is he nucking futs. I always root for the underdog, just as I did for super bowl but I believe this guy is going to die. But just for fun, I will bet he does not have trip ending failure before he reaches Cape Horn buts thats where the boat will come apart and he will probably die. Boy are you optimistic...I think reality will set in on him long before cape horn and he bails out with a minor failure...something like he forgets a frying pan. Gosh, if he needs a frying pan, all he will need to do is reach out and grab a piece of aluminum plate as it peels off the various failing structures! Of course, some purists do not like to cook on aluminum, but hey, he'll just have to make a sacrifice or two (before he makes the ultimate one...)! | | | Re: TinCan Tri
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Posts: 199 Constanta, Romania | Can we place bets ?
25% (flesh wounds) |
26%, 8 Votes
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50% (broken bones) |
16%, 5 Votes
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75% (permanent disability) |
3%, 1 Votes
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100% (as in dead) |
55%, 17 Votes
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minor damages, broken hardware |
9%, 3 Votes
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minor structural damage |
0%, 0 Votes
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large structural damage |
38%, 12 Votes
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fish hotel |
53%, 17 Votes
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Of course ! |
7%, 2 Votes
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Noooo |
93%, 28 Votes
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#129535 02/05/08 04:26 PM 02/05/08 04:26 PM |
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Posts: 1,200 Vancouver, BC | I think the boat will hold together to get him out far enough to be beyond immediate assistance. It will also be a pig to steer (have you seen the pictures?) as there's square bows and keel turns on all 3 hulls. So it will also take severe loads in big seas as those sharp corners resist the wave engergies.
My bet is the aka's (which are welded tubular sections) will fail either at the ama attachment points or the main hull, or they with just buckle at one of the many sectional welds along their lengths.
He's putting all his hope on the foam filled floatation..."unsinkable" ...but very heavy, little to no free board and not preventing structural breakup.
Mike.
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#129537 02/05/08 07:43 PM 02/05/08 07:43 PM |
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Posts: 291 | Read the book "Trekka Around the World". A book about a guy that built a 20 foot boat out of wood and sailed around the world. Keep in mind the boat was designed by a boat designer and the guy was some kind of carpenter so he clearly new what he was doing during the construction. It is not always necessarily the size of craft, as much as it is the design, construction and of course the skipper.
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Posts: 1,200 Vancouver, BC | Today's the Day for TinCan Tri...
According to the most recent blog entry, he is to launch that beast sometime today, test it in the bay tomorrow and leave for San Diego Sunday...potentially continuing on for a full lap about the globe.
Anyone in SF area able to get photos/vids for us?
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#129540 02/08/08 07:51 PM 02/08/08 07:51 PM |
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | So long as people are being honest with their answers, the poll isn't too optimistic. Only 2 out of 29 votes say he's going to even make it.
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#129541 02/10/08 06:37 PM 02/10/08 06:37 PM |
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Posts: 757 japan | well he's supposed to be in the water now and moored somewhere for the night in SF bay.....going to be tricky without an anchor but he'll work out something i'm sure
OR he's been delayed again which puts his launch back further and that'll mean riskier weather for a non-stop circum. but actually if it does sail i suspect he'd much rather stop in at every port for publicity/money/rebuild reasons and then it won't matter when he casts off
wonder if he's planning the movie now, could get krakauer? of "outside" fame to ghost write the book and maybe sean penn to for the movie
does he know how that story ended?
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#129542 02/11/08 02:47 PM 02/11/08 02:47 PM |
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Posts: 1,200 Vancouver, BC | Latest on Sailing Anarchy states he has not launched as of today. This came from a phone call someone apparantly made to the boatyard operators.
Another "deadline" slips... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
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Posts: 291 | I don't know that I would use words like "deadline" with this topic. It might have other meanings by the time this is all said and done.
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Posts: 1,253 Columbia South Carolina, USA | this whole thread reminds me of the new H16 sailor that we warned about sailing by his self in the winter, and we all know how that turned out. maybe Tin can will have better luck..
The men were amazed, and said, "What kind of a man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?" Matthew 8:27
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