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what about this tornado? #130116
01/30/08 12:07 AM
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japan
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looks like someone here in japan is selling a tornado

what can you tornado experts tell from the pics

the japanese text babelfished is

20 feet catamarans (England make) sale has not been taken to the photograph, but 2? 3 it turns and you think that it is not to use and is the same as the new item. Present condition delivery

http://www.asian-navi.net/HC-14/Tornado-08.html


eric e
1982 nacra 5.2 - 2158
2009 weta tri - 294
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Re: what about this tornado? [Re: erice] #130117
01/30/08 12:12 AM
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Well ,I am not T expert but I bet you could have fun on it!


Once you go cat you never go back! Nacra 5.2 (Elsies)#1499, running an inter17 spin!
Re: what about this tornado? [Re: erice] #130118
01/30/08 12:32 AM
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Kingston SE South Australia
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I bet you could have fun towing it through Tokyo.
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Re: what about this tornado? [Re: JeffS] #130119
01/30/08 01:26 AM
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West coast of Norway
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Looks like an old (late 70s or very early 80s) Reg White with IYE gear to me. Expect structural issues if you push the old lady. It should be very, very, cheap. We had loads of fun on a T similar to this when we started sailing. First question tough, do you have a partner to sail with?

Re: what about this tornado? [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #130120
01/30/08 01:40 AM
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thought it might be early 80's as the boom hardware looks very similar to the stuff on my 1982 nacra 5.2

yes, not really a boat for me as i sail 99% solo and can't even right the 17foot nacra by myself let alone a 10foot wide 20foot boat

plus our lake is generally considered to be too small for a hobie 16

may get the wife to call though....


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Re: what about this tornado? [Re: erice] #130121
01/30/08 02:37 AM
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Vancouver, BC
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Looks like a nice boat. I'd guess an early to mid '80's sailcraft or reg white. Reg's later boats had an unusual way to mount the frontbeam...there were flanges down the outside of the inner gunwales. Bolts went horizontally through the flanges into the hulls. Idea was to improve platform stiffness.


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Re: what about this tornado? [Re: Tornado] #130122
01/30/08 02:40 AM
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West coast of Norway
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You mean rearbeam, dont you? We had those, and they did not really help <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: what about this tornado? [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #130123
01/30/08 03:25 AM
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notice it has raked spreaders on the mast, something that the nacra 5.2 didn't get until about 1984...


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Re: what about this tornado? [Re: erice] #130124
01/30/08 11:51 AM
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Norman,OK
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Wish it was near me, I would be all over it!


Once you go cat you never go back! Nacra 5.2 (Elsies)#1499, running an inter17 spin!
Re: what about this tornado? [Re: gree2056] #130125
01/30/08 12:26 PM
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Looks like a Early mid 80's White boat to me.


F16 - GBR 553 - SOLD

I also talk sport here
Re: what about this tornado? [Re: scooby_simon] #130126
01/30/08 01:07 PM
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FL
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Kind of looks like a IYE mast step on the main beam from 70-80.
IYE masts had sweep back spreaders back then, before Sailcraft of England had them.

Re: what about this tornado? [Re: sail7seas] #130127
01/30/08 02:21 PM
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Definitely 80's Reg White with Sailspar mast and beams. With the three tone waterline it's a Reg White 'Special'. This means extra local reinforcing, stiffer decks etc.

Rolf, you're right. It was only the rear beam that had the inner gunwhale plate. Main beam was normal bolt through. The mast doesn't look as though it's been set up with sufficient pre-bend and, of course, the sails will just be the 'classic' rig.


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Re: what about this tornado? [Re: Jalani] #130128
01/30/08 08:29 PM
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got an email reply from the contact guy saying

"1986's UK Reg White "Special"The world champion boat

Sailspar mast and beams Sale Smith(One race use)"


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Re: what about this tornado? [Re: erice] #130129
01/31/08 12:45 AM
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and now a price

half a million yen, or near enough to 500,000cents =$5000

japan is a funny market

an old hobie14 can sell for more than a nacra 5.2 because it's a hobie and most people have heard of hobies. no one here has heard of a nacra

so an old tornado was either going to go 1 of 2 ways

either an over priced "collectors" boat playing on it's olympic heritage or an under priced bargain

looks like it's the former


eric e
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2009 weta tri - 294
Re: what about this tornado? [Re: scooby_simon] #130130
02/01/08 03:58 PM
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Lake Norman, NC
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It doesn't actually look like a Tornado. It looks like an ARC-22 with a Tornado sail. The hull design looks more like something from Aquarius.

[Linked Image]

Re: what about this tornado? [Re: Special_Treat_P182] #130131
02/01/08 04:04 PM
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It doesn't actually look like a Tornado. It looks like an ARC-22 with a Tornado sail. The hull design looks more like something from Aquarius.


"looks like an ARC-22" as in "it's got two hulls"? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: what about this tornado? [Re: Jalani] #130132
02/02/08 07:34 AM
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Kingston SE South Australia
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Ive had a big day flogged by the wind broken my blocks off the traveller boom off the yoke, drank too much booze aw forgot bent my boom but fair dinkum that looks like a Tornado


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Re: what about this tornado? [Re: JeffS] #130133
02/02/08 08:56 AM
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except for the dagger boards...


eric e
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Re: what about this tornado? [Re: Special_Treat_P182] #130134
02/02/08 12:16 PM
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Vancouver, BC
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This picture is not a tornado. Raised beam seats are one give away. Also, the bow is much more curvacious on the T...while the gunwales are smaller radiused.


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It doesn't actually look like a Tornado. It looks like an ARC-22 with a Tornado sail. The hull design looks more like something from Aquarius.

[Linked Image]


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Re: what about this tornado? [Re: erice] #130135
02/02/08 04:31 PM
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Columbia South Carolina, USA
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My question is how many characters are in the Japanese alphabet? How big is the laptop key board that typed that stuff?
sorry, bored...


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