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#131809 02/21/08 03:49 PM 02/21/08 03:49 PM |
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Posts: 943 East Gippsland, Australia | Must be a lot of turbulence downwind of them. If the disturbance stretches for 20 times the height.. Dont put the race course too close to them. Say goodbye to any interesting birds as well. I wonder about the bird problem with these wind farms. Where I live you can't drive anywhere for a few minutes without seeing the remains of some bird on the road. When I think of the scale of the road system and imagine how many dead birds there must be lying on roads, I really can't see how the numbers that fly into wind generators can be significant. If the numbers were comparable the maintenance people would have to bulldoze the carcases out of the way just to get to the base of the tower! If it really is a serious problem then maybe we should be ripping up the roads to save the birds!
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#131812 02/22/08 09:39 PM 02/22/08 09:39 PM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. Timbo
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Wow, that was very cool! I wonder how many RPM's it got up to before it came apart? Must have really been putting out some juice just before the blades flew off!!
Wouter, what do they use to keep them from overspeeding? Do they feather the blades (change the pitch) or do they have some sort of a brake system?
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#131813 02/23/08 01:56 AM 02/23/08 01:56 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Both are used, but I think on larger turbines only feathering is viable. Braking 2 MW relates to alot of heat and wear !
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#131814 02/23/08 07:34 AM 02/23/08 07:34 AM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. Timbo
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | But couldn't they just bring another generator on line to slow it down, kind of like the "regenerative brakes" on the electric cars and hybrids? Use the torque to drive more generators at the normal speed, vs. wasing the energy of a normal brake system.
I saw some very big blades going down the highway in Texas, these things were HUGE, I would guess at least 150 feet long and about 10 feet across the round base of the blade where it attatches to the hub. They were carried on a huge trailor, one behind each truck, I think I counted about 6 trucks heading north on I35 out of Ft. Worth back in August. Probably going up to North Dakota, I think there is a big wind farm up there. They must manufacture them somewhere in Texas? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
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#131815 02/24/08 08:38 PM 02/24/08 08:38 PM |
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 130 CA Glenn_Brown
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Posts: 130 CA | Wouter, Has anyone looked into active vibration dampening, a la J. C. Doyle et al.? ( http://www.cds.caltech.edu/doyle-fest/ ) Space platforms have similar problems, especially due to the lack of dampening in a vacuum. --Glenn | | | Re: Windmill
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#131816 02/25/08 03:22 AM 02/25/08 03:22 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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I can't say.
The field of windturbine design is pretty big now and many people work there, I know only a small portion of them and even of those I only know a portion of what they have researched over the years.
Wouter
Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
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#131818 02/26/08 04:47 AM 02/26/08 04:47 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Yes, indeed, and that is why the smart rotor concept is being researched as it promises to cut down on maintaince costs.
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Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
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#131819 02/26/08 06:56 AM 02/26/08 06:56 AM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. Timbo
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | How big a windmill would I need to put on my roof to power say, half my demand at home? And this is DC power, right? And I would need an inverter to make it AC power, and I could also cover my roof with solar panels, below the windmill mast! And maybe even put up 5-6 windmills on the beach, and one at the end of the dock, to kill off those pesky birds that are always crapping on my boat and dock! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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