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#136521 03/15/08 01:13 PM 03/15/08 01:13 PM |
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 334 Seattle,Wa Don_Atchley
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Posts: 334 Seattle,Wa | For me it would be as simple as a no-frills membership plan, that I could get online. Then make multihulls a selection when I register. Bring it out into the light. I barely heard of the golden anchor program. And I haven't found the imformation easy to get. Hobie Tiger 2003 | | | Re: What would it take for you to join US SAILING?
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#136522 03/15/08 01:16 PM 03/15/08 01:16 PM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | I barely heard of the golden anchor program. And I haven't found the imformation easy to get. You're not alone. It's not easy to find anything on the US Sailing web site -- even if you know what you are looking for. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: What would it take for you to join US SAILING?
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#136523 03/15/08 01:40 PM 03/15/08 01:40 PM |
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,921 Michigan PTP
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Posts: 2,921 Michigan | I joined USSailing 2 or three years ago because I thought I was going to race in an Alter Cup qualifier- which I didn't end up doing anyway. I got the nice few books (rules) but other than that I see no reason to join. I have not heard anything about the organization that really helps me at all (selfish, yes, realistic, yes). Other than getting the whopping 5$ off for being a ussailing member when signing up for regattas, it makes no real sense. As Eddie murphy said "what have you done for me lately?"
Maybe it would make a difference if I were a top 1% sailor, but I ain't. I guess I don't get much from belonging to my professional organization either and that is markedly more expensive though.
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#136524 03/15/08 01:59 PM 03/15/08 01:59 PM |
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4,451 West coast of Norway Rolf_Nilsen
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Posts: 4,451 West coast of Norway | Sorry for butting in on a US topic. Eliminate individual memberships and go back to the old way of requiring clubs and organizations to pay a portion of each member's dues to US Sailing, so each member is, by association, a member of US Sailing. That is the way it works here in scandinavia. If you then are unhappy with how things work, you have a voice and will be heard. I dont expect much back from our national assoc. I want them there to represent our interests with the government and to help grow the sport. | | | Re: What would it take for you to join US SAILING?
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#136525 03/15/08 02:23 PM 03/15/08 02:23 PM |
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,884 Detroit, MI mbounds OP
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Posts: 1,884 Detroit, MI | I got the nice few books (rules) but other than that I see no reason to join. I have not heard anything about the organization that really helps me at all (selfish, yes, realistic, yes). I will agree that US SAILING has done a poor job of marketing its benefits. A member benefit that I just discovered today is that members have $25,000 of excess medical insurance in case you are hurt travelling to or at an event. | | | Re: What would it take for you to join US SAILING?
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#136526 03/15/08 02:30 PM 03/15/08 02:30 PM |
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,884 Detroit, MI mbounds OP
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Posts: 1,884 Detroit, MI | Sorry for butting in on a US topic. Eliminate individual memberships and go back to the old way of requiring clubs and organizations to pay a portion of each member's dues to US Sailing, so each member is, by association, a member of US Sailing. That is the way it works here in scandinavia. If you then are unhappy with how things work, you have a voice and will be heard. I dont expect much back from our national assoc. I want them there to represent our interests with the government and to help grow the sport. Jim Capron explained that this is how many MNAs (especially the Scandanavians do their memberships. The US business model is closer to the Australian one. | | | Re: What would it take for you to join US SAILING?
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#136527 03/15/08 02:37 PM 03/15/08 02:37 PM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | Jim Capron explained that this is how many MNAs (especially the Scandanavians do their memberships. The US business model is closer to the Australian one. But why did the U.S. system change? It just makes so much more sense to be able to join a club or organization that belongs to US Sailing and thereby become a member of US Sailing. My membership card to our yacht club used to say right on it that this club is a member of USYRU. And, therefore, I could show my membership card at any other club or organization that belonged to USYRU, and I would be welcomed at that club. It was perfect. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: What would it take for you to join US SAILING?
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#136529 03/15/08 05:38 PM 03/15/08 05:38 PM |
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,253 Columbia South Carolina, USA dave mosley
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Posts: 1,253 Columbia South Carolina, USA | If the USSailing President would come on this forum and explain what he can do for multihulls, then back it up, then he can have my money
The men were amazed, and said, "What kind of a man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?" Matthew 8:27
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#136530 03/15/08 07:15 PM 03/15/08 07:15 PM |
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 613 New Hampshire, USA windswept
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Posts: 613 New Hampshire, USA | 1) Support Multihulls in Olympics 2012 and beyond. 2) Publically apologize for high-jacking the voting process that led to this decision. 3) Place a multihull member option online for registration. 4) Welcome new members who are multihull sailors to the association.
I am not a member of the golden anchor program because it is done by mail and I could not find it or an explanation of the program anywhere on the site.
Tom Siders A-Cat USA-79 Tornado US775
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#136531 03/15/08 07:21 PM 03/15/08 07:21 PM |
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 110 Northern California, USA RyanMcHale
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Posts: 110 Northern California, USA | Windswept, I found an explanation of the program at http://www.ussailing.org/membership/golden.asp1) Support Multihulls in Olympics 2012 and beyond. 2) Publically apologize for high-jacking the voting process that led to this decision. 3) Place a multihull member option online for registration. 4) Welcome new members who are multihull sailors to the association.
I am not a member of the golden anchor program because it is done by mail and I could not find it or an explanation of the program anywhere on the site.
Ryan McHale Hobie 14 (battened jib)
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#136532 03/16/08 07:14 AM 03/16/08 07:14 AM |
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 297 rexdenton
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Posts: 297 | I posted comments on sailing anarchy, as that is where I first saw the question. Nice that someone is at least concerned enough to ask, as an effective governance organization that is *IN TOUCH* with the sailing community can really help the sport of yachting
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[Re: CMerrell]
#136534 03/16/08 10:10 AM 03/16/08 10:10 AM |
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 17 Olli
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Posts: 17 | How about voting for a multi-hull discipline in the 2012 Olympics? How about a multi-hull event in the '08 Youth Champs? Oh wait ... those are things they could have done last year BUT DIDN'T!
Cat sailors have put up with years of BS from US Sailing that our participation is valued, that we should "work within the system", etc. Yet at every turn, cat sailors are shunted aside. US Sailing has taken my dues for years and returned little. I am not renewing in 2008.
What would it take for me to REjoin US Sailing? Big changes, my friend, big changes.
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#136535 03/16/08 12:10 PM 03/16/08 12:10 PM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. Timbo
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Exactly as above. What are dues now, $60? And for what, if you are a multihull sailor?? WHAT? A $15.00 rule book once every 3 years? Spare me. Not even a decent magazine anymore, not that I need more sailing magazines, but none of the multihull mags I get cost $60/yr! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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#136536 03/16/08 12:49 PM 03/16/08 12:49 PM |
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 5,582 “an island in the Pacifi... hobie1616
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Posts: 5,582 “an island in the Pacifi... | In general: All of the above.
For me: Give me the PRO certificate I earned by attending the class but was denied because I didn't belong to a YC. US Sail Level 2 Instructor US Sail Level 3 Coach | | | Re: What would it take for you to join US SAILING?
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#136537 03/16/08 01:35 PM 03/16/08 01:35 PM |
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,921 Michigan PTP
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Posts: 2,921 Michigan | For me: Give me the PRO certificate I earned by attending the class but was denied because I didn't belong to a YC.
Are you kidding me? Please tell me you are.... they wouldn't give it to you because you didn't belong to a YC? I am in a pissy mood anyway, but that puts the nail in it for me. | | |
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