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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Mark Schneider] #140814
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Correct, but Rondo has to do the bullet shots (as needed)... Not sure that he ever took care of that piece of business when she got a bullet at the NAs last year... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Also, I was trying to not to jinx Erin and Kenny...

Mike

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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: brucat] #140815
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Connectivity today was terrible. Sorry I could not get more reports in.

We'll see how tomorrow works out.

Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Robi] #140816
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results going into Day 4 - WILD day yesterday. We had two protests, a holed boat (that had to be switched for our backup boat), and the leaders were DSQ'd from a race. The whole leader board has been scrambled now but when we get to 10 complete races (hopefully today), the teams will benefit from TWO throwouts - which should open up a world of possibilities. There are still a big fist full of sailors that can win this thing. Watters and Burd are now on top of the standings even though they hit a sandbar in the last race yesterday opening up their daggerboard well. That boat is having it's repair finished up this morning and we should be set for another day of racing - our new backup boat was sailed over yesterday afternoon. It's going to be a little lighter today and we're expecting a real drop in wind speed around 3pm.

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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Jake] #140817
04/25/08 11:09 AM
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Anybody have the story on Nigel hitting Krantz.

OK with this A/B fleet thing... Since Nigel got a DSQ 11th place in the 7th race, does that mean he starts in the B fleet the next race? That is a double penalty since he could only score an 11th the next race. That sucks!!


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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: MarkW_F18] #140818
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Not really. If he were sailing in a 20 boat fleet, the DSQ would be 21 points. By winning the next race (in B Fleet), he picks up a total of 22 points, which he can completely discard if they get to 10 races (two throw outs). There's really no difference in this case.

Now if he didn't win the next race - that's a bit of a different story.

Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Robi] #140819
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sorry - no more "on the water" reporting from Robi as he has joined the show and is now crewing for Ken Hilk starting in heat 10B. Ken's crew is suffering numbness due to a pinched nerve.


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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Jake] #140820
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Seems the results are shown incorrectly?

B fleet sails first... A fleet second. Hard to tell by this what breaks or back-to-back races there are.


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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Jake] #140821
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sorry - no more "on the water" reporting from Robi... Ken's crew is suffering numbness due to a pinched nerve.


DAMNIT MARK... I WARNED YOU ABOUT THE &^%%ING JINX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hope Erin heals quickly, is there a chance for her to get back in it?

Mike

Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: brucat] #140822
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SURE!

She is young.... (Unlike us ol geezers!!!)

They are running short courses... if the sheet hand is grinding both the main, spin and hoisting.... they will sleep well.


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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: brucat] #140823
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There are only 10 boats. The way it was explained earlier, A fleet is scored 1-10 and B fleet is scored 11-20. The bottom 3 of A and top 3 of B swap fleets. Is this done with each race?

Looking at Race 7 and 8.... since Nigel got a DSQ, it appears that he had to start in the B fleet the next race since he was in the bottom 3. So even if he wins Race 8 in B, he only scores a 11. Hence.. A double penalty for the DSQ. Is this correct?



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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: MarkW_F18] #140824
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Yessir. Being DSQ or OCS is a death nail.

Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: ThunderMuffin] #140825
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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: ThunderMuffin] #140826
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Yessir. Being DSQ or OCS is a death nail.

Well I guess with two throw outs after 10 races it's not a total death nail, but you then have to stay clean and out of B fleet from that point on.


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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: flumpmaster] #140827
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however, if you throwout your 11, can you make an argument that you shouldn't ever be bumped to B fleet? :P

Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: ThunderMuffin] #140828
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however, if you throwout your 11, can you make an argument that you shouldn't ever be bumped to B fleet? :P


No.


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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Jake] #140829
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How's the wind over there today?


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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: Timbo] #140830
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I bet you could get a deal on this one!

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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: GeoffS] #140831
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Whats the story on the DSQ? Because of the collision?

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I bet you could get a deal on this one!

Looks like a project for Jake back at the hotel parking lot.


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Re: Alter Cup 2008 on the water reporting [Re: hobie1616] #140833
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Talked to Tripp a few hours ago... he said him and Andrew were protested and DSQed from a race today for barging at the start. They were pushed back to B fleet and then won that race and that put them back in A. He said 1 or 2 more planned after I talked to him and more tomorrow so a lot could still happen.
It's still really amazing that they are doing that well with Andrew having no cat experience! I hope everyones getting on him about racing cats more regularly!

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