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Posts: 5 Fleet 204, Syracuse NY | One I haven't seen here is to carpool. Last year, I did two events with a motorhome, where there were four of us in the motorhome, with a doublestack trailer. 8 mpg sounds pretty bad, but if you divide by 4 people, it's 32 mpg, which isn't too bad on an individual basis. Considering I would have to take my truck or van anyways, you are automatically looking at 15 or 20 mpg. Plus, you have to sleep in a tent when you get there.
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Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... | Simon, are you converting for UK (4.54lt) or US (3.8lt) gallons? I know things are bad but that bad! I was in Sheffield the other week though and saw diesel as low as £112.9/lt. Look around or check petrolprices.com
Cheshirecatman I paid 119.9GBP / L for V power 98 Ron a couple of weeks ago. I run all my Turbo Cars on 98. The WR1 needs it, 320BHP from a 2L flat four is a fair grunt IMO
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#141367 04/29/08 03:33 PM 04/29/08 03:33 PM |
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | Word is gas is on it's way to $7 - $10 a gallon, so you might as well hit the events while gas is still cheap.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#141368 04/29/08 04:24 PM 04/29/08 04:24 PM |
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Posts: 308 Reno NV | Word is gas is on it's way to $7 - $10 a gallon, so you might as well hit the events while gas is still cheap. First they told me that P/E ratios mean nothing anymore, so I bought a lot of tech stocks. Then they told me that house prices never go down, so I bought houses to flip. Wish I had money left to invest in oil futures, they're telling me that's the new "sure thing". <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: Will high gas prices affect regatta attendance
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Posts: 224 Cincinnati, Ohio | I won't do any regattas far from home, but I don't see gas prices stopping me from doing the ones close to home. A 2 hour drive for a weekend regatta is still cheaper than going out of town or vacationing.
At 3.50/gal my parents dropped $150 in a few hours of waterskiing with their power boat. Needless to say it's for sale and they want to buy motorcycles.
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Posts: 1,383 Kingston SE South Australia | Get used to the prices guys were paying $1.698 per litre and travelling distance for everything. Last weekend I went for a sail in Adelaide 700km round trip at 20litres per 100km, $237 for a social sail and it was worth every cent. regards
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#141373 04/29/08 06:50 PM 04/29/08 06:50 PM |
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Posts: 606 League City, TX | Word is gas is on it's way to $7 - $10 a gallon, so you might as well hit the events while gas is still cheap. So what oil price does that imply? - $117/bbl crude works out as $2.78/gal - so do you think Crude is going to double?. Or do you see the dollar devaluing by 50% relative to other currencies? Otherwise I don't think $7-$10/gal gas is on the cards any time yet. Gasoline inventories in the US are at the highest levels since the 1990s and gasoline demand has dropped for the first time in nearly two decades. I'm not saying it won't go a bit higher this summer, but not $7-$10 unless something radical that affects global crude supply happens. Attendance at the first event of this year in our locale was up on last year (31 boats), but it was the most central event in our region. We'll find out what happens at the peripheral events where some people are making 200-300 mile drives. Chris. Chris. | | | Re: Will high gas prices affect regatta attendance
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Posts: 3,969 | Well, the longest I'd consider driving for a weekend regatta is about 800 miles round trip. At $7 a gallon, 7 MPG, that comes out to $800 just for gas in the RV. If I take the Explorer, that would be about $400, leaving $400 for a hotel (which would more than pay for the hotel). Of course, there's no room in the Explorer for 2 adults, a baby, a babysitter and all our stuff to be comfortable for an 8-hour drive each way.
So, at that point, it gets extremely hard to justify for a weekend regatta without getting sponsors involved (good luck with that since the economy will be in the toilet at that point, food prices, etc.).
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#141375 04/29/08 09:07 PM 04/29/08 09:07 PM |
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Posts: 224 Cincinnati, Ohio | I suppose that I'm not the best reference. Even if gas prices were to see a significant decrease, I still wouldn't travel more than 150 miles for a regatta.
I've been a rower for a long time and have grown to dread the out of town regattas. In my teens I had no problem driving 8 - 10 hours to row.....this year I probably won't even attend any out of state regattas, rowing or sailing. I work all week and the last thing I want to do is drive all night for an early morning race.
The gas prices just help to back up my reluctance to travel long distances. I'd be perfectly happy if I never left Ohio again.
Now if I were to crew for someone, and not have to haul my boat and gear, and split the driving and gas...I might be persuaded to travel further.
I predict that regatta attendance will remain steady, for the following reasons 1) More power boaters will switch to sailboats, because they will still want an affordable way to get the family on the water. 2)More people will team up and split the costs (double stacking or taking turns crewing) 3) The smaller local regattas will see higher numbers when sailors who would normally pass the lack of competition up begin to look for things closer to home.
So, will gas prices affect regatta attendance? I think the number of entries will see a negligible change while the demographics change.
Ryan - H16
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#141376 04/30/08 06:55 AM 04/30/08 06:55 AM | Anonymous
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Unregistered | I have heard several angles on this topic lately (from and economic side).... 1 that opec is not increasing supply because they cant... they are at full production.. 2 I heard we could easily go to 3 or 400 a barrel in the next few years.. 3 and lastly i have heard that even though china and india are huge markets, US and even world demand is down a bit and the current costs are all speculative and unjustified ($119 barrel.
All i know is i am glad i dont have to drive to far for work, live near the beach and my passion involves wind.... How bout those poor golfers and their polyester pants! | | | Re: Will high gas prices affect regatta attendance
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#141377 04/30/08 09:20 AM 04/30/08 09:20 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | No, I'm not predictiing $7-$10 this summer, but global demand is higher than ever and on the rise and we haven't started burning the $117 a barrel oil yet.
We also have to get through hurricane season.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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Posts: 342 Indianapolis, IN - Midwest USA... | No, I'm not predictiing $7-$10 this summer, but global demand is higher than ever and on the rise and we haven't started burning the $117 a barrel oil yet.
We also have to get through hurricane season. As it stands, there's no reason for them NOT to keep raising the prices. The laws of supply & demand do not apply here. We'll all grumble about it, but still pay it. Just look at the people lined up to pay $3.75/gallon. The real terrorists aren't the lunatics who build bombs; the real terrorists are the ones who methodically attack each and every one of us, in the wallet! And it seems they're winning...
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