karl you'll burn and go to hell for that]

wait, you are!

look at the very shot of him on that weird rack, did they put it there just for the movie?, he's holding this tiny little white line that is too small to handle any loads

i think next shot he's holding a black line....

when the boat goes over the rack folds in and the guy on it looks to be tied to the rack because as it folds he is swung down but is caught just before he hits the sail

...

my gf is more exciting and attractive to me... so there was nothing "more" interesting in that movie than the sailing to me.... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

I'm just a lover of boobs, and she does have a phenomenal rack.

like the racks on that cat i wonder if the director paid for them to be fitted for the movie too

[Trying to get back on topic!]
The racks [on the F40] were to make sailing look more daring and were robbed off of Roy Seamans prototype n6.0 used in the Worrell. Whats he doing now?

Still no certain answer to my post. Surely someone must be boasting about this stunt somewhere?

Doing a bit of a search to answer my own question I found this;

"Pierce Brosnan performed his own stunts during the boat crash scene." So it was himself.....

Then;

" ....said Rosenfeld, who worked as a sailing stunt double for Pierce Brosnan in "The Thomas Crowne Affair."
So it was Larry Rosenfield too!!!

Someone is having us on!

Are you kidding?!?! With or without top, Rene Russo is a babe.

At the other end of the spectrum of tasteful sailing films, is 'Dead Calm' with Nicole Kidman and Sam Neil.

Memorable scene: Sam Neil breathes through a **** filled pipe while trapped underwater as yacht sinks by the bow. He then swims to the surface after seeing fish swim in through mansized hole in hull.

I second Dead Calm... Maybe the two tourists I ran into on the beach had seen this film... Judging by the way they ogled my signal pistol... I told them I only needed it because I sailed an old beat up boat ;-)

A cat sailor I know told me this story about this scene (and i'm pretty sure i've mentioned it on this forum before):

It was filmed off Roton Point in Rowayton, CT. Upon capsizing a jetski was to tow a float under the mast to prevent the 60ft rig from turtling in 40ft of water... the jet ski was late, the mast turtled and the film company had to shell out the big bucks to replace the sails, battens, and etc.

I believe that Rick Bliss of New England Catamarans was on the boat that Brosnan was not. He's out of the country until the 22nd, but i'm waiting for an email back from him and when he gets back to me i'll ask him if Brosnan was on the rack or not.

Where's Randy? Does he not visit this board? Can't he or one of the other guys (there were many counting both boats) who ware on the cats tell us?

I dont know much about bigger cats and was amazed at these racks (on the cat) but have found others in use...

It was Tommy Gonzalez.

Awhile back I had dinner with Art Stevens, who gave me some inside to this movie. Art owned one of the 40's at the time, that was chartered to the movie. Art's son towed the boat to Ct from California and assisted with the sailing crews. According to Art, Pierce went out to the boats on the water took one look, and said back to the beach. All of his scenes were blue screened. "Not going to mess up the face". Randy could confirm, but I was told he was not within 100 miles of the boats. No way he was on the rack.

Yes it was Rick Bliss. As I recall, they did several weeks of filming and everyone were disappointed with the short scene in the end. The boat was on hydraulics in blue screen for the first flip and then on th water the plan was that only the stunt men were trained enough to flip it. According to my recollection, the stunt men got too scared to push it over and the cat sailors stepped on and did the dirty work. Also from recollection, that was the first time one of these "prosail" boats ever flipped.

I also had the privlege to flip a cat with the sister copy of this Roy Siemen's rack. It was on a Worrell-1000, heavily modified Nacra 6.0: 4ft taller mast, 4.5ft wider boat, rhino extensions on the bows to try to keep them floating, and the 13ft Siemen's rack on each side. This boat was usually first for DNF. I think it was HoggsBreath 1999-- the guy on the rack has a wild ride. The rack adjusts up-down and forward back. This means it also twists easy. It is only stable when you are at the very end when your weight is precisely under the ladder spreader-- even then it never feels ok. BTW, you cannot drive from the rack-- the skipper might sit on the first few feet like a couch-style Hobie, but usually does old-school Tornado style) Plus, when boat flattens to two hulls quickly, you are 13ft out on the end and take a massive teabag with little to hang onto or any easy way to keep you head up.

On day 2 of this race, we got off to a good start. Jack was excited and powering up the main. I was very nearly to my stable position, but not quite. I would estimate speed of 15Knots to windward when the bow buried. With so much weight and mast, you must release the jib to save it. Unfortunately, the oxen blocks (normal ratchets could not be controlled from 24ft away) required that I pull back strongly and this was only possible when I was in the only stable position and feet on a cross member of the rack. So, I watched as the bow stuffs and we cartwheel. I am 24ft from the water at the end of this high speed cartwheel and was catapulted far ahead of the boat. Rick White on RC unfortunately never got a picture. When we righted the boat, we found sand on the bows (we were in 8+ft of water), cracked beams, and the racks were a twisted mess of aluminum.

What a ride. It is really a shame that such crazy boats are out of fashion. They were a blast.

Matt Mayfield

I did "The Down the Bay Race" for a number of years ... there were two of those beasts I believe both sponsered out of Virginia Beach ... Rudie's & Alexanders ... impressive ... but always breaking, Rick Bliss was skipper on one of the boats ... I can not remember which ... I haven't seen Rick since the 02'Statue Race w/ his Yellow N6.0NA (follow the Yellow 6.0) That would make sense that it was him on the rack. Rick taught me somethings I still follow to this day !!! And one of those bar/resturants made a "blue" drink that I called the Tidy Bowl drink .... I don't remember much after just one ....

Another reason to keep that movie on my "favorites list"

HarryMurphey
TheMightyHobie18/P19MX

RUDEE'S RUCKUS

1/2 oz. vodka
1/2 oz rum
1/2 oz gin
1/2 oz blue Curaçao
1 oz. sour mix
1 oz pineapple juice
Top with 1/2 oz 151 Rum

Serve over ice.

Top with 1/2oz. 151, and light a match! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

So it was at Rudie's ....

And to think I drank that !!!

Next time I'm in Va Beach I'll have to go and drink another ... To LEE QUEENSBERRY and his "Red Shorts". I seem to remember him in the "posse' that night also ... but it is fuzzy ...

Sail Flat, Sail Fast
HarryMurphey
TheMightyHobie18/P19MX


Harry

And it just occured to me ... John McLaughlin drank TWO ........... I think .... awfully fuzzy, awfully fuzzy ....

Harry