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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | Aquata/Murrays? Worrell full harness. It's heavy but your actually more comfy on the wire than off. It's like laying in a hammock.
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#143634 05/20/08 07:34 PM 05/20/08 07:34 PM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | After I spend a couple of hours in my harness, I have to nurse my lower back for a couple of days. Anybody have a recommendation for a harness that is easy on the back?
Geoff What are you using now? I agree with Todd though, there is nothing more comfortable than the Worrell XT harness - but it is too heavy and cumbersome for buoy racing in my opinion.
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Looks to be an "Aquata Pro Excellerator XT" circa 2002. That should be a good one - play around with the straps a bit - especially the shoulder straps. When mine is most comfortable on the wire, the shoulder straps are quite tight anywhere else.
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Posts: 163 Atlanta | are you doing your shoulder straps up tightly? I try to keep them tight, but I also prefer to wear my PFD over my harness, so I don't have great access to the shoulder straps. It's a good thought, though. I'll pay more attention to this. | | | Re: back-friendly harness
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | are you doing your shoulder straps up tightly? I try to keep them tight, but I also prefer to wear my PFD over my harness, so I don't have great access to the shoulder straps. It's a good thought, though. I'll pay more attention to this. And the tighter your spreader bar is to your torso, the less pinching moment it applies to your lower back.
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Here's a problem I've been having with my full body harness. In order to walk upright on the beach, I have the shoulder straps loose. Once I get out on the wire, I reach inside my life vest and snug the shoulder straps down fairly tight, tight enough that I can lay my shoulders back to flat body, and relax my stomach muscles.
BUT, when I come in off the wire for a dowind run, and try to sit up straight on the tramp, the shoulder straps are now too tight, and if I were to get off the boat with them set at the "upwind" setting, I could never stand up straight without loosening them quite a bit first. Cranking down on the shoulder straps compresses my vertebrea as well as supporting my shoulders and upper body, due to the nature of them wraping over the top of my body and going back down to the waist area.
I can really feel it in my back the next morning if I have been sailing "compressed" the day before. Is there a harness with shoulder straps or other type of upper body support that does not compress your spine when you tighten them up?
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Posts: 2,584 +31NL | Tim: I have exactly the same problem with my MagicMarine harness, the other day I borrowed a Hobiecat Convertible harness and liked it a lot. The back support is quite solid and doesn't depend/compress so much on the top shoulder straps like my MM one does. I am seriously considering getting one. | | | Re: back-friendly harness
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Thanks Tony. It looks like it has no shoulderstraps at all, is that correct? I was thinking about maybe a windsurfing type harness or something that wraps around my chest, no shoulder straps, with a hook higher up, towards my sternum, much higer than the typical cat harness. Anyone seen something like that? What do the Kite guys use?
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | As far as the half-harness goes, I don't think anyone makes one comparable to the Hobie...I'm just waiting for the day I can afford/justify one (would be great for those lightish days where you may or may not be trapezing). The center of gravity needed for trapezing is different that wind surfing since they are standing more upright.
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Posts: 164 fort Myers, FL | Hobie makes two different half models, the Convertible (that is the one on the picture) and the regular half Skippers harness. The Hobie convertible has shoulder straps that can be taken off (hence the name convertible). The back and hip support in this harness are great, the bucket is very stiff and has a lumbar support build in. The regular Hobie half (Skippers) harness does not have shoulder straps, nor does it have the support or stiffness that the Convertible has (but it is cheaper!). We have the Convertibles and love them.
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Posts: 164 fort Myers, FL | Matt, yes, I experienced that on the 16 as well...I found that it is much less of an issue when the shoulder straps are attached (they keep the back part of the bucket closer to the body).
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Posts: 168 San Diego | I have the slightly older model aquata hyrdo which is pretty much the same as the xt. I find it comfortable but I've never had a full harness so I don't really have anything to compare to. | | | Re: back-friendly harness
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Are there any full harnesses with the spreader bar higher up than belt level? I would think the higher you could get it the better back support it would offer, without having to crush your spine with over shoulder straps pulling your shoulders down toward your waist.
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