Another Fairy Tale <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
Frederic Leger was sailing a standard Spitfire at that event. Chris Sproat, who was in 2nd place has just confirmed that. So Spitfires were 1st and 2nd, with 5 in the top 10. Maybe it was a Spitfire that weighed 135k <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

What type of cat was this imaginary F17 anyway? Nacra F17 or is there something else out there? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Seems like the biggest 'spin' being put out by Nacra has nothing to do with the asymmetric variety!!! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Hi John, Peter Emmerson was asking for you last night - I told him that you were very quiet recently <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

The Nacra Europe website says 151k for 1 up and 156k for sloop. Does that mean that it's not a 1.04 at all <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

well maybe the Spitfire is really a F17 or the F17 is a Spitfire in camouflage..

Maybe macca has been hanging out in the dutch coffeeshops too much <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

No Coffee shops for me <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Who is in this photo then??

Also article here: scroll down page for F17 news item.:-
http://www.nacraeurope.com/news.php?PHPSESSID=e8afd1312897605e480b3248763545ab

Wondered why Macca had a bad day coming only 27th but I guess the " Dutch black thick coffee " maybe an explanation.

Question slightly off thread but has a reasoning, how many professional sailing teams ( including out of work or in between contracts ) were there at Texel and how many of the top places were taken by the hired jockies. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

macca,

It is bad enough we have to listen to wouter, but now your dribble too.

What is a F17, where are the rules and what builder could I buy 1 from besides nacra. There are at least 4 versions here in the US, rumor has it there is another rig and sail combo in testing and now you have an "optimised" 1 for the 104.

What is the 104 rule? Sounds like a group of builders trying to find a market for their boats that did not sell so well. Is there a defined rule set somewhere? We have some hopped up 14s racing against some fat 20s now in our fleet, must be we are 104 already and did not know it.

The point is, who gives a F$%#? If anyone is going out of their way to promote more multihull racing and opportunites to grow the sport, more power to them. You however, should stick to pulling strings and let the marketing guys promote things.

Not so much quiet as not really seeing any thread that I felt like contributing to. Most of the time I sit and read some of the drivel being spouted and shake my head in disbelief at the egos and personalities on display. It seems like anyone who dares to question some of the posters on these forums immediately gets shot down by others who are only here for the wrecks.... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Glad to hear that Pete's still around, I missed him when he and Barb were last over in England as I was away sailing. I also missed him the time before as I was in Zandvoort. Perhaps I'll just drop in on you guys in Eire? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Guys,

As a "rank and file" member of the F16 class and not an engineer or professional sailor, let me chime in here:

I think the 104 idea is fine and hope it works out for those involved. It's another "run what you brung" idea. Nothing negative to say there.

If there are any sailors out there who wish to do some sailboat racing and your boat is anywhere in the neighborhood of the F16 rating (ie F17, A-class, F18, spitfire, Fx-1, etc.) please come join us for some sailboat racing. If your cat is of a slower rating, eg Sea Spray, H16, Nacra 5.0--come and we've got a class for you too. You would be more than welcome, and we won't nit pick your boat design, marque, etc.

We got a very nice event coming up at one of the best sailing venues in the US: Huntington Lake, June 21-22.

That would be 27th over the line.... a few M20's and Eagles even Tornado's were in front of the F18's.

As for Pro teams, who really knows, some have costs covered some just lake the stickers on their boats, some even get paid. But the fact is there are a lot of F18 teams that compete quite seriously.

Mini,

There is a place called Europe, and in that place there is quite a lot of cat sailing. One of the classes there is 104. Its for all the boats that rate 104.
Its basically a junior class for F18. They have class regattas and a few weeks ago the French assoc had their nationals. 28 Boats attended so its getting to a reasonable fleet size.

If thats dribble then i'm sorry <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

A couple of kids rigging a Nacra <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> It's certainly not Freddy.
That article says no pictures available - It's a good thing - a Spitfire on the Nacra site <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Macca,

As chair the the SCHRS management group. Boats that qualify actually rate between 1.035 and 1.045 on SCHRS.

I'd be quite happy to calculate a rating for a Nacra F17 two up WHEN someone sends me the appropiate documentation to calcualte one.

Appropiate documentation is a ISAF Measurement certificate.

I assume there is one floating around so I can calc said rating?

Cheers

Simon

Chair SCHRS management Group.

Edit to add. All current valid SCHRS ratings are stored on the SCHRS website here

Macca, where is the fabled place you call Europe?

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did i miss something?
it STILL looks like macca and the spitfires are at complete odds over who won the races...someone's is gunna look pretty...

stupid? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

According to the link above Freddy won the Event. And according to Chris who was 2nd in the above event, Freddy was sailing his Spitfire as usual.
It seems that there was some article in a French magazine recently which said that the Nacra F17 was the fastest of the F104s and the Spitfire was the slowest. Looks like the Nacra webmaster read it and got carried away <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />