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Posts: 224 Cincinnati, Ohio | I'm just curious, but why does everyone seem to think that they have to go to smaller boats to singlehand?
I know plenty of people who single hand the bigger boats. Aside from capsize recovery, I see no disadvantage to single handing a bigger boat.
If I'm really pushing the boat hard, it's during our Sunday fleet races. We always have a crash boat on Sundays, so I've got plenty of help getting it back up.
Ryan - H16
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#151693 08/07/08 09:18 PM 08/07/08 09:18 PM | Anonymous
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Hi Ryan Bigger boats have alot more sail area... and that means a lot more horsepower in heavy air... throw in a HUGE spinnaker... and you need raw weight and muscle I sail solo and using a spin in even light air takes 3 hands .... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Posts: 531 Lake Murray SC | Interesting discussion. I am going the opposite direction as I do not want to sail alone. And since all up crew weight will be at least 380lbs and we want to race somewhat competitively, a bigger platform that is not as sensitive to weight is our choice.
Race cheap, race faster, Damnit!
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#151696 08/08/08 04:21 AM 08/08/08 04:21 AM |
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Posts: 915 Dublin, Ireland | I'm just curious, but why does everyone seem to think that they have to go to smaller boats to singlehand?
I know plenty of people who single hand the bigger boats. Aside from capsize recovery, I see no disadvantage to single handing a bigger boat.
If I'm really pushing the boat hard, it's during our Sunday fleet races. We always have a crash boat on Sundays, so I've got plenty of help getting it back up. Apart from capsize recovery, there is no way I could be competative on a F18 or Hurricane 5.9 in the force 4 or 5 we regularly get here. Even a Spitfire would be a bit much downwind in 25 knots of breeze.
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | The difference between a 120kg or 150kg boat is too small to notice.
You'll be surprised ! My own F16 (homebuild) is 120 kg and I can even tell the difference between my own and the newer 107-110 kg F16's when handling them on land. Especially when putting it on or off the cat trax singlehandedly. The difference between lifting some 50 kg at the bow with one hand or 70 kg is significant. Currently the F16 sailors are the only ones at my club who walk up their boats on the incline to our "harbour" all others use the electric winch. The difference between a 107-110 kg and a 150 kg in tipping it over to get to the top of the mast etc is also significant. Downside of course is that in a good blow the wind can blow it over alot easier as well. When in doubt I just flip my boat over on the beach and have it lay flat. But I understand your other points fully. Provided racing is a big consideration for alot of sailors Wouter
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#151702 08/08/08 07:21 AM 08/08/08 07:21 AM | Anonymous
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Posts: 224 Cincinnati, Ohio | Andrew, I suppose I'm just used to light air. We're lucky to see more than 12 knots of breeze at Hueston Woods. I know plenty of people who single hand the bigger boats. Aside from capsize recovery, I see no disadvantage to single handing a bigger boat.
Hi Ryan Bigger boats have alot more sail area... and that means a lot more horsepower in heavy air... throw in a HUGE spinnaker... and you need raw weight and muscle I sail solo and using a spin in even light air takes 3 hands .... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Ryan - H16
I prefer to go sailing because baseball, football, tennis, and golf only require 1 ball!
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#151706 08/10/08 07:49 AM 08/10/08 07:49 AM | Anonymous
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I suppose I'm just used to light air. We're lucky to see more than 12 knots of breeze at Hueston Woods. Yes in 12 knots you can single hand just about any cat... in 20... its like riding a bronco. I single handed my cat in 18-20 (mph) friday and sat... i need a massage... (but instead i will go out and sail again today). Its only supposed to be around 10 knots today (since a front has come through) so i will get to rig my spinnaker... but even at 10 knots... after 30 minutes with it up... my hands will be cramping and hurt.... (I LOVE IT) | | | Re: A trend toward smaller boats and singlehanders
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#151708 08/12/08 08:16 AM 08/12/08 08:16 AM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | After I passed 70, I found it a much harder to find young girls for crew so I had to go the singlehanded route. At 135 lbs and veticaly challenged, the only high tech boat that I can get on and off the trailer, rig and get to the water is the A class. The down side is, now I seem to get a lot of bad decisions from my crew. Chicks still dig you, Gordon! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> They just can't catch you in that new-fangled A-cat thingy....
Jay
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#151709 08/12/08 09:48 AM 08/12/08 09:48 AM |
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Posts: 15 SE Utah | This trend, if true, would seem to help promote the F14.
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#151710 08/12/08 03:55 PM 08/12/08 03:55 PM |
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Posts: 1,383 Kingston SE South Australia | The F14 must be cold to sail as I've travelled everywhere this winter and still havn't seen one <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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