| Should the Code 0 gennaker be used at the Olympics #152105 08/09/08 07:33 PM 08/09/08 07:33 PM |
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Posts: 613 New Hampshire, USA | I have my own thoughts on this subject and have stated those views to the ITA. What are your thoughts.
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Posts: 1,669 Melbourne, Australia | I still can't see it. F.5 BOWSPRIT F.5.1 MATERIALS (a) Bowsprit materials are optional. (b ) Bowsprit spar stay materials are optional. (c ) Bowsprit-to-forestay extension strut materials are optional. (d) Gennaker retrieval system materials are optional. F.5.2 CONSTRUCTION (a) The forward end of the bowsprit spar shall be plugged or capped, and blunt. F.5.3 FITTINGS (a) MANDATORY 1) Gennaker tack block 2) Stays from the bowsprit spar gennaker tack block position and the bowsprit mid section to the hulls 3) Attachment point fittings for the jib tack and/or jib luff tension (b ) OPTIONAL 1) Attachment point fittings for the bowsprit-to-forestay extension strut and jib sheet. 2) A gennaker retrieval system may be attached to the bowsprit or be integral to the construction of the bowsprit. It shall be suitable solely for the purpose containing the gennaker and shall not violate rule D.6.2.d. F.5.4 DIMENSIONS minimum maximum Bowsprit spar diameter 38 mm - Distance of bearing surface of the gennaker tack lead from the forward edge of the main beam, measured with the gennaker halyard pulled tight and the bowsprit fitted to the boat in its normal sailing position 4000 mm F.5.5 WEIGHT minimum maximum Bowsprit spar, gennaker retrieval system, fasteners, tack block, halyard/tack line block, internal tack line and brace stays 2.2 kg - Though click on Tornado at the official notices link - http://www.sailing.org/olympics/racing/officialnotices.php and the measuring comittee has sail NO to pelican striker | | | Re: Should the Code 0 gennaker be used at the Olympics
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Posts: 1,669 Melbourne, Australia | Tornado measurment
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Looks like Bundy and Ashby will be able to decide on weather or not to use the code zero after watching everybody else make the call. | | | Re: Should the Code 0 gennaker be used at the Olympics
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Posts: 613 New Hampshire, USA | Booth has measured his, Bundock and Ashby have chosen not to measure theirs, we will see what Lovell and Ogletree decide to do. I am having difficulty understanding the pelican striker as an issue.
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Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... | My guess is that they have binned the pole as the measurer is saying that the pelican striker is part of the pole and so makes the dia > 38mm? F.5.4 DIMENSIONS minimum maximum Bowsprit spar diameter 38 mm -
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Posts: 613 New Hampshire, USA | Just noticed (Been a little slack) that New Zealand decided not to send a Tornado team despite Aaron McIntosh and Mark Kennedy quailfing NZ in Feb. Only 15 boats at the regatta.
That's poor form form NZ. I think that the reason behind that was the number of atheletes NZ could send and they ended up being cut from the team for that reason. I may be wrong but that is my interpretation. I friend of mine from canada had a similar incident during one of the previous Olympics in which he made the Olympics only to have the canadian body cut his event from participation. Could you imagine making it that far only to be left home. Much like all of the Olympians from 1980 when carter boycotted the Moscow games. I have a few friends who were on either the Sailing team or the Gymnastics team who are still upset over that one.
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Posts: 1,383 Kingston SE South Australia | Imagine the publicity if it turned out all NZ sailors are not old and fat like their commitee and the NZ Tornado team won a medal. I even want the US Tornado team to come second to rub US Sailings nose in it. Perhaps we need the French Rainbow Warrior team to sink some keelboats for us <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.
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Unregistered | Aaron and Mark never made the team (they weren't cut). The NZ olympic committee has very strict qualification procedures requiring consistent performance at the top level before you get selected (even if you do qualify). Basically you need to be a member of the "team" to be able to afford to compete at all the required international events, but without attending and doing well at these events you can't get into the team. If you don't have money left in your account from an AC campaign or well funded parents, its almost impossible to break in. | | | Re: Aaron and Mark
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Posts: 539 | Then why did another nation not be given the oportunity to fill the slot NZ decided not to fill.
I am sure the other nations that were on the fringe of qualifying are real pissed off. Agree there. Forgot what nation it was, but they gave up their Finn spot to India. India hadn't qualified, but now have the opportunity to be at the games and promote sailing the in the country with the 2nd biggest population. | | | Re: Aaron and Mark
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Posts: 1,669 Melbourne, Australia | Top 4 teams that were still to qualify at the NZ Worlds were to take up the remaining 4 slots.
The top 4 teams in order were.... Canada, Austria, New Zealand and the Ukraine
The next 4 teams that were seeking to qualify in order of how they finished at the Worlds......
Russia, Puerto Rico, Brazil, Poland and Venezuela
I believe Booth was seeking a wildcard entry for Puerto Rico, one of the teams (along with the US) that were involved in their code zero training camps. They were denied. | | |
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