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#154791 09/12/08 08:06 PM 09/12/08 08:06 PM |
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Posts: 1,403 | Am I too understand that the self-tacking jib takes no hit? Even though it is a smaller sail the ease of tacking with it makes me think some hit should apply. No rewards or penalty for going to a smaller sail unless of course you are taking it off and sailing uni-rig or uni-rig and putting one on. Therefore if it were me I would leave that alone. I looked into sail size early on and was told the Tiger main is smaller, I cut a foot off the TheMightyHobie18 boom and its still too long for the Tiger main. The mast is only 1.5' taller and this is the old ST main, not the STX.
Anywhere we can get a look at this Frankenboat - sounds like an interesting project. | | | Re: portsmouth calculations
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#154794 09/13/08 08:26 AM 09/13/08 08:26 AM |
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Posts: 744 | Here's a solution that might actually work...
Send a few pics and a list of the mods to the US P/N committee! Let them hash it out and you will end up with a rating that you can move across the country with! What a concept!!
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#154798 09/15/08 08:13 AM 09/15/08 08:13 AM |
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Posts: 109 Fl | "If someone is trying to "beat the system... it will most likely not be protested... It is the old saying, argue with an idiot and you start to look like one too."
While it's hard to disagree with that last statement, this is the attitude that slowly kills events. When people get tired of rules not being enforced, they may stop coming to regattas.
First, this sounds great, however history has shown the opposite. Not because I do not agree with the statement you made, I wish it were true. The reason has to do with "most people", will avoid conflict. That is all. If people don't act as they should, then others will just leave simple as that. My history also goes back to the wonder years of Hobie's..I had 16' 18's and still have a 33 and an 18. I sat on protest committees when Hobie fleets had 350 boats to a regatta. I sat on one committee that had to hear 8 protests from one guy alone.. Yes, it would have been good if that was just making it fair for everyone...reality was quite different. My point is, what you are saying is a good goal...however, it will take the better sailors "talking" to the people getting out of line to create the proper atmosphere. If you wait for protest committees to solve your problems for you..just look around and ask your self again why no one is showing up?? It goes back to playing any game. If you are not will to pay the game straight, why play at all. There are people out there all over the place that have not learned this. There are many other people who are trying to get their entire world view of themselves on the out come of a sailboat race...winning is all that matters...or some variation to that... Bottom line is this is a game. If we can't play it straight, who is winning and who is really losing? Protest committees are not solving these problems and never will. That is what most have figured out is all I am saying. That does not mean we do not need good protest committees. We should and they should be used...the real solution is a little more than that... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: portsmouth calculations
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#154799 09/15/08 09:02 AM 09/15/08 09:02 AM |
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Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... | Off the subject here, I've justed noticed that Texel and SCHRS have different numbers for the A relative to the F18's, Why? Also If we are up in arms over ISAF why do clubs still use SCHRS or have they moved to PY or Texel? We still use SCHRS becuase it is run by sailors (my team and I) for sailors. We are an affiliated group that reports to the technical ctte within ISAF and I have the technical director if the ISAF as one of my team. I am the chair of the SCHRS management group. The reason that Texel and SCHRS have different values for the delta between the A and F18 is that the systems use differrent formulas. Texel was developed to handicap boats in the Round Texel Race which has hten been adopted by some clubs for some other races. SCHRS was developed to handicap boats on all race course shapes.
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#154800 09/15/08 09:22 AM 09/15/08 09:22 AM |
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Posts: 1,403 | Texel was developed to handicap boats in the Round Texel Race which has hten been adopted by some clubs for some other races. SCHRS was developed to handicap boats on all race course shapes. Have you sent this to the folks at Sail Wave? | | | Re: portsmouth calculations
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#154801 09/15/08 09:56 AM 09/15/08 09:56 AM |
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Posts: 3,969 | Kaos,
Two quick things. What I said DOES happen. I've run into many people over the years that come by regattas or boat shows. When you asked why they stopped racing, they sometimes use this as a reason. I'm sure that there are plenty of others that have the same feelings but won't come out and say it.
Also, don't take my last post out of context. If you go back to my other posts in this thread, you will see that I refer to "talking to the person" before protesting. In reality, we do this all the time, many PROs do this before protesting something they see on the water. In reality, there is a clock ticking on all of this, and sometimes you have to file fast before you can resolve it on the beach.
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#154804 09/30/08 03:43 PM 09/30/08 03:43 PM |
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#154805 09/30/08 03:51 PM 09/30/08 03:51 PM |
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Posts: 471 NC | And I did learn that I finished second in open class at Catfest without racing the second day. Nice, you're almost as fast as an F16. Will we see you at Outback? | | |
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