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#165314 01/19/09 04:24 AM 01/19/09 04:24 AM |
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Posts: 1,449 | Phill- Don't forget to get some sailing in too!! Kirt Kirt, Good point. I just gave up two weeks of sailing and took a week off work to build a 40 metre retaining wall with a fence on top and then paint the front verandah. The wall and fence are a segment of an circle with a 60m radius just to complicate things a little more. All good fun. When all this is done I will progress the RAZOR AND get some sailing in. Regards, Phill
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#165321 01/19/09 08:16 AM 01/19/09 08:16 AM |
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Posts: 196 Arkansas, USA | Ah yes!! "Honey-Does"! I know them well! They have often gotten in the way of my sailing as well! I'm in the middle of putting together a 40x54 ft building- hopefully then I'll have a nice spot to build another boat- Perhaps a RAZOR?? But I did take 2 hours yesterday to get out on the Taipan at least!
Take care! Kirt
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#167215 02/04/09 03:15 AM 02/04/09 03:15 AM |
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Posts: 1,449 | The hull panels need a stringer. To stop the staple gun from bruising the timber I cut up an ice cream container which is the burgundy bits of plastic that you can see.
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I know that the voices in my head aint real, but they have some pretty good ideas. There is no such thing as a quick fix and I've never had free lunch!
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#167659 02/09/09 05:51 AM 02/09/09 05:51 AM |
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Posts: 1,449 | Peter, As far as this thread going on forever! I may be a bit slow when I build- but not that slow. More pics added to the albumn.
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I know that the voices in my head aint real, but they have some pretty good ideas. There is no such thing as a quick fix and I've never had free lunch!
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#167660 02/09/09 06:52 AM 02/09/09 06:52 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Phill, great picts. thanks for keeping us updated on you project. In the last picture where the hull halves are being joined up, could you post a picture of the underside of the hull? I am interested in the way you shape them, is there a cutout piece, like an outside bulkhead, to hold the shape? And are the two narrow strips across the bottom stitched to the side panels, like a stitch and glue kayak?
Also, on a completely unrelated topic, our media finally picked up on your wild fires, awful picture, 130+ dead, etc. My thoughts and prayers are with you all down there, I hope you get some rain soon, they did mention it was flooding in the north but no relief down south.
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Posts: 1,449 | Tim, There are 4 frames made from scrap timber. These are used to sit the panels in while they are wired together. The frames are not the shape of the hull but they are designed to make sure the panels join at the correct angle for the intended shape which is formed later when the bulkheads and subdeck are added. It looks very box like right now but hopefully that will change. It is stitch and glue like building a kayak.I think the photos you are asking about are in the catsailor photo albumn and the link below should take you there. http://www.catsailor.com/gallery/index.php?cat=10302 Let me know if they don't cover what you want to see. *** The fires are bad news. The people of NSW and Vic are all hoping for rain. Victoria is in flames and will be for weeks- already it is the worst natural disaster in the countries history in Victoria. On the other hand the people in Queensland want the rain to stop- with record 12 metres of flood waters in places. Regards, Phill
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#167667 02/09/09 08:37 AM 02/09/09 08:37 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Ahh yes, those are great pictures and answer most of my questions, worth well more than 1,000 words! Now, are the hulls fully symetric, as in, you build port/starboard exactly like the other, or is there a separate port/starbord hull and frame set? It looks symetric in the photos but I wasn't sure.
I really need to clean out my garage, get rid of all the kid's old bikes, trikes, etc. and start a project like this, but I think (since I already have a Blade) I would like to try a 20' trimaran. Build the center hull only, and use old Inter 20 hulls for the amas and rig/sails.
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#170343 03/03/09 09:35 PM 03/03/09 09:35 PM |
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Posts: 105 | xuraax, The Razor is about simplifying the building and the butt strap joint is simpler than the scarf. The keel panels are flat and do not need a scarf joint. In hindsight I think the side panels will take a butt strap joint too. The curve will not be that great and the joint can probably be made of after curve is induced. Along the same lines the chines are easier than steaming the hull to coach the ply to take the intended shape. This design is much less stressful for both the builder and the ply.
Regards, Phill Thank you so much for designing this! As soon as I get out of grad. school and resume having a "real" income, I'm building one. By the way, I vote for butt joints all the way! They're so easy. I built two stitch-and-glue boats from Bateau.com, and I've been incredibly impressed with that method. I don't have the patience or attention to detail required for tortured ply, but stitch and glue is right up my alley. | | | Re: The RAZOR
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Posts: 1,449 | Folks, I've not touched the Razor since February. I've been busy with outside home improvements. But since it has been raining so much lately I thought I'd take the opportunity to get back to it. So I put a couple more pics into my albumn. Just some shots of the keel glassed. It starts to give a bit of an idea of the under water shape. Regards, Phill
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