| NACRA Inter 18? #171945 03/16/09 06:11 PM 03/16/09 06:11 PM |
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Posts: 87 Charleston, SC, USA | Hi guys,
There is an Inter 18 for sale out there, that interests me.
What are the main difference between an Inter 18 and an F18 (non Infusion)?
I'd like to get my hands on an F18 (any manufacturer) but they are a little price for me. And despite occasional racing I do more recreational sailing still. Just got back from 10days in FL sailing "Frank The Tank" in the gulf, still a fun boat with friends. But is sucked moving it around the beach every morning end evening this thing has to be 500lbs and the beach was 100ft long.
I want something lighter and faster than my Getaway and newer than an old H16.
The new NACRA 570 Sport with Square Top and Spinnaker looks like a lot of fun at 19ft and 360lbs..... But that too is pricey.
Bjorn
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#171948 03/16/09 06:28 PM 03/16/09 06:28 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | The I18 is the eighteen foot version of the Inter 20/Nacra 20. It is an 18 foot boat with volume before volume was cool.
There used to be one in the Melbourne area on the market for a very long time but sadly it finally sold and left the area.
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#171949 03/16/09 06:29 PM 03/16/09 06:29 PM |
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | With an alloy stick. The carbon snuffer isn't F18 class legal either.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#171953 03/16/09 07:08 PM 03/16/09 07:08 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | With an alloy stick. The carbon snuffer isn't F18 class legal either. So you have to use an Al pole and snuffer? You don't have to use aluminum...but it can't be carbon.
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Posts: 87 Charleston, SC, USA | Is Inter 18 the old name for the F18 (Non Infusion)? That commonly is referred to as the NACRA F18?
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | The Inter 18 was around before F18 was born. It just happens to fit the F18 box rule. The I18 is probably not as optimized an F18 but it is a pretty solid boat.
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Posts: 87 Charleston, SC, USA | OK, so how much for a 2001 with trailer and original "white" sails and a trailer, no Spinnaker Otherwise in OK shape.
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#171964 03/16/09 08:42 PM 03/16/09 08:42 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | B.2.3. BOWSPRIT The bowsprit shall be made of extruded aluminium profile of constant section. The length shall not be greater than the distance, measured in total from its attachment point from the centre of the front beam to the vertical line touching the most forward part of the hull, with the bowsprit measured when level to the deck of the catamaran, plus an additional 800mm. The bowsprit shall be fixed and approximately on the longitudinal centreline of the boat. See diagram. The forward end of the bowsprit shall be rounded and blunt.
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#171966 03/16/09 09:12 PM 03/16/09 09:12 PM |
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | Bjorn
Do you want to race this boat in F18 class OD races?
The US Inter 18's were supplied with a carbon mast and larger then F18 Class legal main. The Inter 18 was also sold to Nacra Europe with an Alu Mast and F18 class legal sail and this boat was fully compliant with the F18 rule in Europe. (It competed at the time with Dart Hawk....) The design was replaced by Nacra with the F18 and later with the Infusion models. Some of the Inter18's in the USA were grandfathered into the NAF18 class with their carbon mast for a limited time. They were supposed to purchase a class legal mast to update the boat by some date certain.. You prospective boat could have one of these rigs so you should check.
So, If the boat in question has a carbon mast you won't be F18 class legal. This is not a problem though if you just want to go racing in any open class race in your area. If you are rec sailing... just keep the paint touched up and enjoy a nice ride.
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | welp, chalk me up for two Razzberries tonight!
I had no idea F18 was around in 1996 (I started sailing in 2000) and I was definitely mistaken about the aluminum spin pole on the F18.
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Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | The Inter 18 was around before F18 was born. It just happens to fit the F18 box rule. The I18 is probably not as optimized an F18 but it is a pretty solid boat.
I believe that was the Dart Hawk and it was the design that partly inspired the F18 class. The nacra Inter 18 however was designed to the F18 rules, then still young and exclusively in EU, much like the Hobie Tiger (1995). Initially the F18 class wasmade up by the Alado F18 (became Tiger later), Dart Hawk and some Mattia design. Ohh, I see others had already reacted to these claims. Sorry. Wouter
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Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | How about a set of HT hulls as a basis for a F18? Good idea or waste of time?
Can anybody comment on the differience between the Bimare F18 hull shape and the HT? In pictures it looks pretty similiar.
They probably have a bit more resin in them!
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#171985 03/17/09 07:07 AM 03/17/09 07:07 AM | andrewscott
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Unregistered | OK, so how much for a 2001 with trailer and original "white" sails and a trailer, no Spinnaker Otherwise in OK shape. Very hard to say. so many factors. Mostly revolve around, supply / demand and how badly the seller wants/needs to get rid of it. There is some "blue book" value insurance companies would butts it at... but even that is probably "way off". The better question (to yourself) is.... is the asking price seem fair for the value of the boat to me. Not always possible, but i would ALWAYS suggest you take the boat out for a test ride to get a good look at its setup, rigging, check for issues... etc. You wouldn't buy a used car without a testdrive... | | | Re: NACRA Inter 18?
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | wait...Jake's only been multihull racing since 2000? Jeeze, I thought you'd been at this way longer than that...
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