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Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: krona] #172082
03/17/09 09:03 PM
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Well if your partner is your spousal unit... probably not... they don't order around quite so well!
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I think most people work out a system of leaving the rigging attached, tying the rigging down and leaving blocks and sheets attached and stuffed into pockets. As a team they get a sloop rigged boat ready to go in half hour of when they pull up to the launch it can be done. If you are not racing the boat.. you don't need to lead a lot of control lines out to the wire and hook up lots of returns etc which save a lot of time. A few quick release pins at the goose neck and tiller extension speed you along. If you get to a regatta the fleet will help you out and you can learn a lot about efficient ways to rig the boat.

I find the getaway tough to move on the beach for some reason so this boat should be no worse.

Shooting the breeze will slow you down as well


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Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: Mark Schneider] #172083
03/17/09 09:21 PM
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I have one of Trey's Lunchboxes - great deal. I lined it with I/O carpet to eliminate the abrasion of road travel. Basically cut the carpet to fit, then affixed using a can of 3M Super 77 spray adhesive - whole job took about 10 minutes using free carpet remnants.


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Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: John Williams] #172085
03/17/09 10:04 PM
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spray adhesive or contact cement coupled with some carpet from Home Depot or Lowes will take care of that. Carpet your box.


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Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: ] #172103
03/18/09 06:50 AM
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Swell did revamp the Hawk as the Hawk 2. I didn't help much, only one made and i think that it is for sale somewehere at the moment

Its the rear beam that hits the waves on the inter18 - bloody uncomfortable and slow habit that!

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Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: krona] #172105
03/18/09 06:56 AM
03/18/09 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by krona
I can push that to 30min, but after that it will start to impose on my interest to take it out for just an hour or two. Other than that I'd love to have a race boat.


There are very few boats that are able to be rigged under 30 min. My cat takes about and hour. If i didn't leave my spin in the snuffer that adds another 20 minutes.

I would be VERY surpirsed if you could rig a f-18 under 45 min.

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Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: ] #172111
03/18/09 07:06 AM
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Charleston, SC, USA
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Originally Posted by andrewscott
Originally Posted by krona
I can push that to 30min, but after that it will start to impose on my interest to take it out for just an hour or two. Other than that I'd love to have a race boat.


There are very few boats that are able to be rigged under 30 min. My cat takes about and hour. If i didn't leave my spin in the snuffer that adds another 20 minutes.

I would be VERY surpirsed if you could rig a f-18 under 45 min.


I was afraid of that, and from helping people rig their Tiger I would have to agree.

Like Mark said, if you leave some rigging tied down and don't start from scratch every time, than that would cut down some as well. While at regattas and it would be left up for 3 days, I don't mind the 1.5h it takes to rig it. It's the days at the beach when you get there at 12-1pm trying to catch the ocean breeze and leave at 5pm for dinner, that would be hurt.


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Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: krona] #172119
03/18/09 07:26 AM
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Once you have a system worked out, you can get it done pretty fast. 30 Minutes is ambitious but if you're motivated then it might be possible. To be honest, lacing the spin snuffer line takes the longest out of any single task.

Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: John Williams] #172120
03/18/09 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by John Williams
I lined it with I/O carpet to eliminate the abrasion of road travel. Basically cut the carpet to fit, then affixed using a can of 3M Super 77 spray adhesive - whole job took about 10 minutes using free carpet remnants.


What is I/O carpet? It is that black trailer carpet you see on marine trailers?
This Stuff?


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Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: Mark Schneider] #172124
03/18/09 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
A few quick release pins at the goose neck and tiller extension speed you along.


Note: be careful not to store quick pins in your tiller... i have seen several seize and have to be drilled out.

Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: krona] #172125
03/18/09 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by krona
What is I/O carpet?


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Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: ThunderMuffin] #172126
03/18/09 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Undecided
Once you have a system worked out, you can get it done pretty fast. 30 Minutes is ambitious but if you're motivated then it might be possible. To be honest, lacing the spin snuffer line takes the longest out of any single task.


2 experienced people with the goal of being rigged quickly can put up an F18 in 30 minutes...but few people get in that kind of hurry and there's usually beer involved...it's more typically like 45 minutes to an hour.


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Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: Jake] #172133
03/18/09 08:05 AM
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A guy at Nacra NAs this year from Canada showed up 20 minutes before everyone was heading out on the water and had his F18 rigged in 15 minutes. He had came straight from another regatta a few hours away and had almost everything set to go... spinpole on, spin in the snuffer, rigging on, boom and boards on the tramp.
Not sure I would practice this method but it seemed to work fine for him.

Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: wildtsail] #172135
03/18/09 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by wildtsail
He had came straight from another regatta a few hours away and had almost everything set to go... spinpole on, spin in the snuffer, rigging on, boom and boards on the tramp.


Most of the guys i sail with keep the pole on the boat, spin in the snuff.... all the time. 3 of the guys have had good luck with their spin and have had it (and used it well) for several years without much problem.

I personally leave mine on unless i need to repair small holes. at that time i wash it, dry it, and patch it. Then i flake it till next sail. I know this may decrease its life by 10-20% but the time and hastle it saves is worth it to me (as i sail EVERY weekend)

Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: ] #172154
03/18/09 09:39 AM
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During the summer we do races every Wednesday evening. Depending on traffic sometimes I end up at the club really really late. I've rigged my boat in less than 15 minutes in those conditions, and that includes getting my drysuit on. This said, I start with a mast up and a spin in its bag already, so the only things to do really are getting the boat of its trailer on the beach wheels, and getting the main and spars out of the sailbox and onto the right place on the boat.

And of course the bungs. Don't forget the bungs. Don't Ask Me How I Know smile

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Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: pepin] #172155
03/18/09 09:40 AM
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Clermont, FL, USA
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Mast up storage is cheating. :-)


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Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: David Ingram] #172158
03/18/09 10:22 AM
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Mast up storage is cheating. :-)


Non mast up is just too much like hard work.


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Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: scooby_simon] #172162
03/18/09 10:49 AM
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Leaving your spin outside in your snuffer would decrease the life alot more than 10-20%! Especially in Florida.

Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: wildtsail] #172167
03/18/09 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wildtsail
Leaving your spin outside in your snuffer would decrease the life alot more than 10-20%! Especially in Florida.


Why do you say that?

the guys i sail with have had the same spin in their snuffer for years... with 100's of uses.

One guy even told me last week he has never even rigged his spin. he never took it off the boat since he bought it.

Mine is about 6 month old with over 70 uses (est). I have had some small holes where the retrieval line has burned through the cloth... but not bad.

Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: ] #172168
03/18/09 11:12 AM
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ack!

Spin comes off after every event. Neatly flaked and put back in its sack.

Re: NACRA Inter 18? [Re: ThunderMuffin] #172169
03/18/09 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Undecided
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