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Re: Tacking and right of way [Re: David Ingram] #176330
04/28/09 08:29 AM
04/28/09 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by pepin

Anyway, I find the f18 crews generally more aggressive. In my experience there are more skippers there willing to push the rules a little bit to gain any advantage, especially if it is just fouling an irrelevant boat from some other class they are not directly competing against. To make matter worse, due to their minimum weight, those boats are overbuild and build like tanks. A side sweep by one of those is going to cut any F16 in two. I would not take the risk.



Dude, seriously NOT cool! To imply that F18 sailors are more agressive and rule benders and hunting F16's simply because we sail an F18 is total rubbish! I think you'll find all classes large and small will have aggressive rule benders and it's not unique the F18 sailors. As for hunting F16's... don't you need a permit for that?

Also fouling someone and not doing a turn (I'm assuming that's your implication) is a douche move in any class and not unique to the F18 class. Now if you're saying that an F18 exercised their rights for no tactical advantage again a bit of douche move but again not unique to the F18 class.

We get it and we get it and we get it! Our boats are heavy! Do you seriously think that F18 sailors are thinking that because our boats are over built we will win a contest of contact... come on now... seriously!?

We really aren't out to get you... really... well, maybe.


More Haters Dave,
just give up, get an A cat and let Kathy sip fruity drinks on the beach! smile


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Re: Tacking and right of way [Re: Mark Schneider] #176332
04/28/09 08:36 AM
04/28/09 08:36 AM
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Clermont, FL, USA
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Okay Mark, make your vision of the ideal regatta a reality. Clearly the rest of us are getting it wrong and nothing convinces more than success. Oh, and dude Spring Fever kicks a$$, on the water off the water and on the 8 hour trip home!

I do find it interesting that the class you're in (the A class) is probably one the most isolationist fleets out there. Seems like every time I turn around they are having an 'A' cat only event. I'm not knocking it they are clearly getting something right. According to your vision though the 'A' cat fleet is doing it ALL wrong, yet...


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Re: Tacking and right of way [Re: David Ingram] #176334
04/28/09 08:56 AM
04/28/09 08:56 AM
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I'm still trying to figure out how every other thread around here gets morphed into a "Whats wrong with catsailing in the US?" thread and therefore a soapbox from which Mark can go ahead and show us just how many keyboards he goes through in a year.


Re: Tacking and right of way [Re: ThunderMuffin] #176342
04/28/09 10:04 AM
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That was my fault, should have seen it coming. Sorry about opening that door. (That's not to say it wouldn't have happened anyway).

Mike

Re: Tacking and right of way [Re: TEAMVMG] #176344
04/28/09 10:51 AM
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Also got the knack of sitting up in the trapeze, both hands on hips [Jam the tiller with your back foot] and glare at the trailing skipper until he really gets the message that you don't want him pushing you about!

Sounds like a good time to use Team Roanoke's Foghorn Leghorn thing also.

"I say, I say there!", "Pay attention, boy!"

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