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| They're confusing. Anybody up for a re-write?
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| I'm assuming you are talking about the F16 box rule right?
I'll vote against any rewrite.
A rewrite will only add to the confusion. Evolution, fine. Revolution, no way. Wrong. I'm refering to the RRS.
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Clermont, FL, USA | This didn't get any traction that last time you two brought it up, what's changed?
I'm curious why this is posted in the F16 forum, it's certianly not F16 specific.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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| Reading the first one, well you are trying to hold station by attaching to a mark. In a fleet race only one boat could do this realistically, so you are gaining the advantage, the others cannot. So 360 as penalty is really not a big deal as the others would have been adversely effected by the tide whereas you have benefited. So case of determining the risk/reward of such a strategy. Second one, happens all the time in big fleets. So case of preparing beforehand and acting before you get in that situation. If you a couple of hundred metres out and someone is slightly higher up the course and behind, pinch up to close them out. Otherwise, they can really take you beyond the layline and beyond, well within their rights to do so. | | | Re: rules
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| The sun rises and sets over David Ingram!?. Why don't you go back to the F18 forum?
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David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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| I know you. I like you a lot better when I don't have to talk to you.
Last edited by pgp; 04/29/09 08:18 AM.
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| Reading the first one, well you are trying to hold station by attaching to a mark. In a fleet race only one boat could do this realistically, so you are gaining the advantage, the others cannot. So 360 as penalty is really not a big deal as the others would have been adversely effected by the tide whereas you have benefited. So case of determining the risk/reward of such a strategy. Second one, happens all the time in big fleets. So case of preparing beforehand and acting before you get in that situation. If you a couple of hundred metres out and someone is slightly higher up the course and behind, pinch up to close them out. Otherwise, they can really take you beyond the layline and beyond, well within their rights to do so. Frankenstein has taken over the lab.
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Clermont, FL, USA | I know you. I like you a lot better when I don't have to talk to you. * heavy sigh *
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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| Much better. By the way, excellent performance Saturday.
If you were a GYC member you wouldn't have had to spend all that time rigging.
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Clermont, FL, USA | You make me feel unwelcome.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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| Reading the first one, well you are trying to hold station by attaching to a mark. In a fleet race only one boat could do this realistically, so you are gaining the advantage, the others cannot. So 360 as penalty is really not a big deal as the others would have been adversely effected by the tide whereas you have benefited. So case of determining the risk/reward of such a strategy. Second one, happens all the time in big fleets. So case of preparing beforehand and acting before you get in that situation. If you a couple of hundred metres out and someone is slightly higher up the course and behind, pinch up to close them out. Otherwise, they can really take you beyond the layline and beyond, well within their rights to do so. Frankenstein has taken over the lab. Ummm. You dragging this down into the usual F16 sh!tf!ght? | | | Re: rules
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| How? You're the one that stopped speaking to me! In any case the sign says, "GULFPORT YACHT CLUB". Not, "Petie's F16 Heaven".
Slips are available. Riggin' up and down, up and down, that's gotta be a colossal PITA! Beer, good food, hot shower. Did I mention mast-up storage?
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Clermont, FL, USA | Rolf you know you have a huge hill to climb on this one and burning cycles on an open forum isn't going to get you any closer. If you're a true believer you will have to show us that racing with only one rule "if contact, all involved are out" actually works and improves the quality of the game.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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