Dear Sailor,
After many successful years building A-Cats, scheurer will start a new exiting project.
The new Beaver 20HT is based on the very fast Scheurer A-Cat G5 .

Highlights:
Curved dagger boards
Bow rails

For more information please visit: http://scheurer.design.officelive.com

Don't take this the wrong way, but that design looks too low in the rear. nothing slower than dragging rear beams through the water. you might get away with that on on single hander, but a double hander is different.

the flyer f18 design failed due to the designers not comprehending this premise.

I notice from your website you quote an SCHRS rating.

Please could you advise who has measured this boat and provide a measurement certificate. Official SCHRS ratings are stored on the SCHRS database which is displayed on our website. I have no data on this boat.

Please can you amend the site to state "target, or estimated SCHRS" until you have provided a measurement certificate and we have validated it.

Cheers

Simon

Thanks Dominik.

Please feel free to contact me when the boat is built!

Hi Dominik. Can you elaborate on the advantages of curved beams on the horizontal plane? Especially the rear one, as it is curved the wrong way to fit a main traveler rail on it:

I am not a designer, but my guess is this sailboat would go much faster with a mast....

It's a pretty boat for sure...I imagine the beams are conceptual in nature..but the bows sure look thin and I agree that the rear beam's proximity to the water lends itself more to lake sailing and less toward ocean sailing.

Probably a sail or two as well...

But they are design experts and must know more than us...

Beaver?

"I stuffed the beaver all the way to the crooked crossbeam..."

There are not a whole lot of A cat designs that can be "scaled up" to a 20', two up boat, (needs LOTS more volume in my opinion) and be successful. Does a "20'HT" carry a Jib?

But it looks like it would be a good A cat if they turned that rear beam around so the traveler would work.

I was going to say that with the arch of the rear beam being the opposite way the way the boom swings might be a good thing. With a spin boat you only travel out when reaching anyway, and having the boom pulling on the mast would act as an automatic rotation preventer, and depowering tool, but then the diamonds aren't supporting the spinnaker then. It looks cool.

I hope the next model is the Snapper, followed quickly by the clam.

OK, for grins and giggles, I checked out the website. 40,000 CHD?? That's like $36,800USD!!!

somebody somewhere needs to build an affordable 20 footer (or get the solution finished up for the N20 mast pricing issue).

my vote is for Jake to do it!

Seems to me that a successful new US 20 footer needs a 3 or 4 High profile distance races that they can compete in to get critical mass.

The idea that you could develop a fleet of OD or Formula 20s seems far fetched these days.

The Marstrom 20 has never caught on as high performance 20 footer for buoys racing. The platform seems to be ride of choice if you want to win some of the big Euro distance races. (Texel Carnac)

The Steeplechase is probably the biggest Open Class distance race in the USA. The Worrell 1000 used to be that race.

Agree or Disagree?

What other events are worth winning line honors that could form the circuit for new 20 footers?

Affordable 20 footer, you mean James Wharram ;-)

I don't see where a 20' cat should be a heck of a lot more expensive to build than a F18. The big difference being 2 more feet of fiberglass hulls in a mold, a foot or two longer mast, same beams, rudders, boards, sails are little bigger.

Why should a Nacra or Hobie "F20" cost more than $1,000 (or so) more than a Nacra Infusion or Tiger? Assuming non-carbon masts and hulls.

Matt builds cats, Matt, can you go into detail on how much more it should cost to "scale up" from a 18 to a 20 footer? Thanks.

$$$$$$, maybe that's why.

At the last Texel there where a few "exotic" 20-footers which could be considered affordable.

There is the Czech built F20-Predator which goes for €25K ready to sail
We were sailing behind one on friday and dont think I have seen a cat pitchpole that hard for a long time!
http://www.f20predator.com/en/

There was also the Polish built Exploder which has been competing at Texel for a few years, not sure how much it costs but since their F18 goes for €11K it cant be as much as an M20 or similar.

My point is given the racing scene. ...It is the specific Race which leads the parade here... Not a OD or formula class that then supports a race.

The $$$ are high for a 20 footer boat that doesn't have a lot of good reggatas to go play at with.