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Naples, FL | Why do most of the crazy T500 stories begin with "one time, when I was sailing with Todd..." ?? Do I sense a pattern? 
Jay
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Actually I think I first heard this idea from Bill Roberts and I may have refined the idea slightly. Next time my trampoline is off, we'll be incorporating it into our 20. Basically, put a zipper pocket under the trampoline and have a small drag chute / water anchor in there with some line and a decent carabiner (you can get a weighted/sprung chute with a bridle that will pop open in the water for about $30).
just keep in mind that the drogue chute does not work with strong currents. I capsized in the RTI a few years ago in Destin Pass and my drogue chute went to the rear of the boat. Our spinnaker was caught in our rigging and we went turtle eventually snapping the mast as we were being pulled back under the bridge. | | | Re: Safety Quiz
[Re: Mary]
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Asuncion, Paraguay | Thanks for the idea about the motorcycle pegs. Using the pole as a ladder is a great idea. It might even sell better as a "cat ladder" that also helps right the boat. I don´t think the steps need to be retractable, just insert short tubes of smaller diameter at intervals and glue in place.
Luiz
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Actually I think I first heard this idea from Bill Roberts and I may have refined the idea slightly. Next time my trampoline is off, we'll be incorporating it into our 20. Basically, put a zipper pocket under the trampoline and have a small drag chute / water anchor in there with some line and a decent carabiner (you can get a weighted/sprung chute with a bridle that will pop open in the water for about $30).
just keep in mind that the drogue chute does not work with strong currents. I capsized in the RTI a few years ago in Destin Pass and my drogue chute went to the rear of the boat. Our spinnaker was caught in our rigging and we went turtle eventually snapping the mast as we were being pulled back under the bridge. A drogue is the only solution in deep waters, but I would rather use an anchor. Buy an aluminum or titanium one. They are remarkably efficient.
Luiz
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Roanoke Island ,N.C. | Why do most of the crazy T500 stories begin with "one time, when I was sailing with Todd..." ?? Do I sense a pattern? I think/hope it's just an odds thing ,I've sailed with alot of folks.  Of course I've broken alot of stuff too.
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
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Isak Dinesen
If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most.
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07/08/09 08:25 AM 07/08/09 08:25 AM |
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| the story/video were certainly lacking in details.
As Jeremy said, "not good for business"
But to put it in perspective... how many cat sailors need life saving assistance anually... compared to lets say.. motorcyclists or bicyclist? or scooter(ist).
To bad the "NEWS" doesn't relay that in general.. Sailing is MUCH safer than.. say.. driving to the beach. | | | Re: Safety Quiz
[Re: ThunderMuffin]
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| I think we all need to decide what "survival conditions" are. For me, 20 knots qualifies.
Pete Pollard
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France | I think we all need to decide what "survival conditions" are. For me, 20 knots qualifies. Depends on the boat. On the 5.2 solo, 20 knotsis definitely survival conditions. The Stealth is manageable up to 25. Up to 30 is survivable, enough to get back ashore. More than 30 are survival conditions: turtle the boat, wait for the gale to pass... | | | Re: Safety Quiz
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07/08/09 10:03 AM 07/08/09 10:03 AM |
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| i sail in 20-25. it is hairy but i wouldn't call it survival mode (until something goes wrong) | | | Re: Safety Quiz
[Re: Mary]
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Roanoke Island ,N.C. | Getting separated from your boat doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the conditions. Or your experience...
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea
Isak Dinesen
If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most.
E. B. White
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Naples, FL | Guess they were sailing by themselves?
Otherwise, someone would have pulled up and offered assistance, no?
Jay
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