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New Nacra 20 footer? #183940
07/02/09 06:11 AM
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An exerpt from an e-mail I received from Cathouse....

New Nacra Project, Nacra is launching in 2010 a new cat. Project code name F20... This is going to get interesting! One of the major goal of this boat is “going to be line honors” I'll try to keep you informed as design details and development progresses. This new boat will not be replacing the existing Nacra 20 One-Design!!

Anybody have the inside scoop?



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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: ksurfer2] #183951
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Originally Posted by ksurfer2
An exerpt from an e-mail I received from Cathouse....

New Nacra Project, Nacra is launching in 2010 a new cat. Project code name F20... This is going to get interesting! One of the major goal of this boat is “going to be line honors” I'll try to keep you informed as design details and development progresses. This new boat will not be replacing the existing Nacra 20 One-Design!!

Anybody have the inside scoop?


I heard the same thing, but didn't see it in print.


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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #183974
07/02/09 10:58 AM
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Karl... are you thinking about a boat for yourself since the Infusion is Beths? wink

Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: wildtsail] #183978
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if it's a 20 footer and it succeeds in scoring line honors all the time, I think it would probably replace current 20 footers sort of like the N20/I20 did to the N6.0... ?


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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: waterbug_wpb] #183984
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Depends on how much the new ride costs. The M20 and Eagle aren't exactly storming the 20 foot market.


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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: David Ingram] #183986
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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: David Ingram] #183988
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Those kinds of boats were built to win the Tybee 500 and other big distance races.

When the Tybee decided that one design was the future of the race... those boats have no reason to be raced in the states.

A boat built for "line honors" .... presumes that you have some distance races that you want to go out and win.

If the big one is off the table... does winning the steeple chase merit buying a hot 20 footer.

Quick.... anyone remember the line honors winner from last years Statue Race?


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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: Mark Schneider] #183993
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The GT300 has an open class and the Overall Trophy is up for grabs every year to the fastest production boat.


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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: TeamChums] #183996
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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: ksurfer2] #183997
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No, but Beth doesn't want one.


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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: Gina_M] #184012
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I talked to Jack at perf. cat today and it seemed that it's still in the idea phase( he had alot of "maybes"), but it's targeted to Europe and it'll be wide and fast and supposed to be more affordable than an M-20.
Take that for what it's worth.
Todd


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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: waterbug_wpb] #184013
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
if it's a 20 footer and it succeeds in scoring line honors all the time, I think it would probably replace current 20 footers sort of like the N20/I20 did to the N6.0... ?

Not if it's 10 or 12 feet wide.


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The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea
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If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most.
E. B. White
Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #184025
07/03/09 05:52 AM
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Didnt Trey win the statue race last year on the N20?


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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: dave mosley] #184028
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Not last year - it was like 2007.

Also - this boat won't be price competitive with the N20 so we shouldn't have anything to fear.

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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: arbo06] #184029
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Originally Posted by arbo06
T Boats still rule......



You are so wise and enlightened!


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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: arbo06] #184061
07/03/09 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by arbo06
T Boats still rule......


European champs just cancelled - only 6 entries!


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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: TEAMVMG] #184064
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Originally Posted by TEAMVMG
Originally Posted by arbo06
T Boats still rule......


European champs just cancelled - only 6 entries!



Whoa! What a fall and how very sad.

Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #184065
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If you took a Tornado and made it 8'6" wide, what effect would that have on it's sailing abilities, and how would it then compare to the benchmark, I20? I would love to see a true F20 class, if there are a whole lot of T's around with no place to go, rather than scrap them, why not just change out the beams and go racing against the I20's, boat for boat? OR, are the T's too light? What do they weigh?


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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: Timbo] #184066
07/03/09 11:57 AM
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The numbers are so close, on the West Coast, we raced heads up (N20 v Tornado). When the wind was light this seemed ok but when the wind piped up, the difference was pretty big in favor of the Tornado.


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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: dave mosley] #184069
07/03/09 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dave mosley
Didnt Trey win the statue race last year on the N20?


Course record for the statue race is held by an N20 as well.

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