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Palm Beach County | Phospo is a product comes out a bluish color it turns the rust back changes the cemical properties.You can buy it at a professional auto paint store. I've used it before.
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“an island in the Pacifi... | I used a metal primer from Ameritone on some steel poles. It has held up very well in our salt air environment but you need either a stiff wind or a respirator when applying it.
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SC | I don't know if this is the stuff but I painted a car years ago and we used a product called "extends". http://www.loctiteproducts.com/products/detail.asp?catid=13&subid=47&plid=168 it turned black an basically converts the chemical make-up of rust. I highly recommend painting the trailer with herculiner, it's a roll on bedliner product that has served me very well. http://www.herculiner.com/ Of course you could get it sprayed with Line-x or Rhino liner but that stuff is so expensive. The herculiner ran me a bout 100.00 a gallon but I have plenty left over for touch-ups.
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South Louisiana, USA | The stuff I use is called OSPHO (probably another name for Phospo listed above):
Product Details
OSPHO is a balnced formula of phosphoric, dichromate, wetting agents and extenders.Rusted Metal - OSPHO is a primer - NOT A PAINT. You do not have to remove tight rust. Merely remove loose paint and rust scale, dirt, oil, grease and other accumulation with a wire brush - apply a coat of OSPHO as it comes in the container - let dry overnight, then apply the paint. When applied to rusted surfaces, OSPHO causes iron oxide (rust) to chemically change to iron phosphate - an inert, hard substance that turns the metal black. Where rust is exceedingly heavy, two coats of OSPHO may be necessary to thoroughly penetrate and blacken the surface to be painted. A dry, powdery, grayish-white surface usually develops. Brush off any loose powder before painting.One gallon covers 600 square feet. Recommended for use under oil base primer or paint,
Great for use on rusted metal.
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| A quick search of the possible hazards includes chemical pneumonitis.
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Palm Beach County | ospho could be the real name most of the letters different order - it has been a few years since I've used it.
Yes wear protection as you should with any chemical!
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Florida Suncoast, Dunedin Caus... | OSPHO is Phosphoric acid. Guess what's in naval jelly? The stuff is not that bad. Wear gloves, work outside, use a paint brush.
Frankly you would be better off finding someone that does Media Blasting and have the thing stripped completely. For example there's a guy around here that will strip a car frame and epoxy prime it for three hundred dollars. Way better than anything you can do and will last much longer. Look around maybe it'll be a better way to go.
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| OSPHO is Phosphoric acid. Guess what's in naval jelly? The stuff is not that bad. Wear gloves, work outside, use a paint brush.
Frankly you would be better off finding someone that does Media Blasting and have the thing stripped completely. For example there's a guy around here that will strip a car frame and epoxy prime it for three hundred dollars. Way better than anything you can do and will last much longer. Look around maybe it'll be a better way to go. Wow, great idea thanks, considering the time it would take me etc... this may be a way to go. I'll start looking | | | Re: Trailer Re-Paint
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Vancouver, BC | OSPHO is Phosphoric acid. Guess what's in naval jelly? The stuff is not that bad. Wear gloves, work outside, use a paint brush.
Phosphoric Acid is also an ingredient in Coke (TM)
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Florida Suncoast, Dunedin Caus... | I've heard of using Coke, Pepsi to clean rust and admit to trying it. Get a couple 2 liter bottles of Coke and pour it on and see what happens.  One more thing about using OSPHO (if you do) is make sure you get all the large, loose stuff off or you will be disappointed when the rust makes an early return.
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Naples, FL | If that matches the boat, then Lime-green away.
Start an online discussion "Pimp my cat"
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Tampa, Fl | I have used the pickling agents before... they work as well as paint. Paint gives you a color of choice, nicer to look at. I painted my trailer the color of my below the water line color and it dresses up nice.
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Frankly you would be better off finding someone that does Media Blasting...
Agreed. Here's the process from the anodizer I referred to in my previous post. LA Anodizing does all of the work for my custom trailer parts.
The galvanizing process consists of the following basic steps:
Oil and Grease Removal -- A hot alkaline cleaner is used to remove dirt, oil, grease and soluble markings. This process is known as caustic cleaning. This cleaning will NOT, however, remove epoxies, paint, and welding slag. Those contaminants must be removed by sandblasting, which we can arrange for you.
Pickling -- A dilute solution of hot sulfuric acid is used to remove surface rust and mill scale to provide a chemically clean metallic surface, readying the metal for the hot-dip process. This portion of the process can take anywhere from 30 minutes to 1-1/2 hours, depending on the complexity or the thickness of the part.
Fluxing -- Your steel parts will pass through this flux (a zinc ammonium chloride solution), which floats on top of our zinc bath. The fluxing process removes oxides and is intended to prevent oxidation of the steel prior to the zinc coating. This flux is then pushed aside to ensure clean removal of the steel parts from the zinc bath.
Galvanizing -- This is where the steel actually gets the zinc coating. The steel is immersed into a bath of molten zinc, which is heated between 820 and 850 F. During the galvanizing process, the steel comes up to the bath temperature and the zinc metallurgically bonds to the steel, creating a series of highly abrasion-resistant zinc-iron alloy layers, topped by an impact resistant pure zinc layer.
Inspection -- The final step in the hot-dip process to ensure compliance with the specifications. Coating thickness, uniformity, adherence and appearance are evaluated. Electronic testing gauges are used to give quick and convenient measurements of the coating. Additionally, Certificates of Compliance can be issued to satisfy the acceptable workmanship.
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