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Re: ISAF Conference Report 5-15 november 2009 Busan, Korea [Re: brucat] #198019
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I don't think the individual stories will carry much weight. The comeback will be... Skiffs... Cats... both High Performance... Bundy switched (for a while)... why not those two sailors.

I don't have any argument other then ... well it has been proven to work at generating world class competition with no compromises in the integrity of the multihull sport at all.

Does it deny men slots at the olympics?....
Does mixed or open mean that the equipment choosen must factor in women?
Mixed does fail at solving gender equity...
Mixed does make things more complicated in the end.


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still its short sighted..

They let the most exciting class slip from the TV screens.. Then if your theory is correct watch the second most exciting class slip from the TV screen..

IOC wants the TV rights and its revenues.. However if the collective moronships decide to put snails racing as the Olympic events we can warm up the organ for the fat lady for the entire sport..

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I can see one of the following happening

mens / ladies single hander - Laser / Finn / Laser
M/L Double hander - 49er / 29xx
M/L Board
M/L keel boat / match racing - pick any 4ksb
M/L Cats

or

mens / ladies single hander - Laser / Finn / Laser
M/L Double hander - 470
M/L Board
M/L keel boat / match racing - pick any 4ksb
M/L "High performance" - Cats or asyms; Asyms win....

or Keelboats get totally dropped (not something I see happening) and we get cats and Asym.


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Re: ISAF Conference Report 5-15 november 2009 Busan, Korea [Re: rhodysail] #198037
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Paul Pascoe, Tuesday, 1 December 2009

The following report contains personal opinions following a few days of reflection after returning from the ISAF Annual Conference in Korea. As Chairman of the Multihull Commission, there were some discussions that will remain confidential, but the major issues were all on the table for everyone to see. Commissions generally meet in private, but most of the Multihull Commission meeting was held in open discussion with multihull enthusiasts, and two major manufacturers representatives were also present.
ISAF Commissions report to the ISAF Executive and exist solely to make recommendations to the Executive. The output of Commissions is not generally made public, although it is would be very obvious to anyone what the Multihull Commission may have recommended. The question now for us all is ‘what do we need to do to get there?’

Overview
The participants at the meeting of the Multihull Commission in Korea concentrated on three subjects:

* Positioning for reintroduction of a multihull for the 2016 Olympics
* Retention of the multihull in the ISAF Youth Worlds
* Possibility of a new pinnacle event for off-the-beach multihulls


While the Olympics directly involves only a very small number of sailors, the dropping of the multihull from the Olympics has had a significant flow on effect that has already seen the dropping of youth programs in some countries, and the Multihull Commission views the reintroduction of one or two multihull disciplines in 2016 as their single number one priority. The top end of the multihull world is doing well with the America’s Cup, iShares Cup, and even in the last few days, the Groupama 3 attempt on the Jules Verne Trophy. However, off-the-beach multihulls are suffering as a result of multihulls being dropped from the Olympics.

2016 Olympics
There has been a lot of anticipation about the work that has been done and the recommendations that are to come from the Olympic Commission. Therefore any recommendations from the Multihull Commission prior to the releasing of the Olympic Commission’s report would be premature, and given that their final report will not be tabled until the mid year meeting in 2010 the Multihull Commission can realistically only discuss possible scenarios.

The Olympic Commission was setup partly as a reaction to the decision to drop the multihull, and the realisation that a class by class vote for the Olympics provided a very short term and disjointed approach, sometimes within unintended consequences, such as the multihull decision. Their brief is not just limited to “which classes”, but a broader approach to firstly ensure that sailing meets the objectives of the IOC in an effort to ensure that the sport stays in the Olympic Games. For example, the IOC recommends that at least some Olympic positions be available through qualification by Continental Championships rather than being based entirely on World Championships, with the intention of reducing the cost for countries to qualify.

The Commission is also looking at sailing representation around the world compared to competitors at the Olympics and comparing it to IOC membership. For example, Africa has 53 IOC members and only 1 country represented in sailing across all classes at the 2008 Olympics. However, we know that there are many more countries who sail in Africa but for some reason they do not compete at Olympic level.

It is also looking at ways to increase the public appeal of the sport through television and hence improve the value proposition of the sport to the IOC television rights holders and their advertisers, i.e. the people who pay for the Olympics. The addition of the medal race was a big step forward in terms of television coverage, with some countries recording excellent TV ratings. For example, in the UK, sailing was the third highest rating sport. However, sailing is also an expensive sport to cover with the use of multiple helicopters, on water camera boats, etc.

There is also a strong view within ISAF that the ten medals should be split between men and women. With this in mind, we need to be ready to offer not only a Men’s multihull but also a Women’s multihull. Alternatively, if only one multihull discipline is available, it would probably be an Open discipline and therefore the boat selected would need to offer women a reasonable chance of competing, probably as a mixed crew.

One other factor to be considered is the relationship between the Youth boat and the Olympic boat and these two should be considered as a unit, not in isolation. In other disciplines the jump from Youth to Olympic boat is quite modest, i.e. 420 to 470, Radial to Laser full rig, 29er to 49er. Whichever multihulls are under consideration should continue in this vein, and provide an incremental step from Youth boat to Olympic boat. Also, if there were to be a Women’s Multihull event, it would be ideal if the Youth multihull was also the Women’s multihull, in much the same way that the Laser Radial covers both disciplines for Youth & Olympic Women. This provides some economy of scale for manufacturers and MNAs as well as concentrating fleets at the local level.

There is also the issue of provided boats, and this concept is gaining popularity as the success of the Laser has shown that this concept provides a level playing field for all nations at the Olympics, and instantly removes any need for potentially expensive development programs.

Some other aspects of the Olympics that were being discussed at the meetings were:

* The impact of Continental Qualifying events for the 2016 Olympic Games
* A strategic approach to the various “World” Events, e.g. World Cup, ISAF World Championships, Class World Championships.
* The feeling that “disciplines” need to be decided further in advance than they currently are to allow manufacturers time to develop potential boats, and to allow some degree of certainty of which type of sailing will be in future Olympics


Each of these are being addressed by various groups, but we will have to wait until the Olympic Commission presents their recommendations at the May meeting to see how significant they see each of these issues.

So with the above information as background, the Multihull Commission considered the following scenarios and whether or not there are suitable boats currently available:

1) A single multihull open to Men & Women.
2) A separate Mens and Womens multihull, with the Womens boat also doubling as a Youth boat, and possibility of small/big rigs with a common platform

The Commission discussed the various options and also whether some sort of trial would be appropriate for either of the two scenarios. The members of the Commission had a very good in-private discussion, where we each took off our “class hats” and discussed what we felt would be the best options if a vote on the 2016 Olympics had been taken this year. It was all purely speculative as it will probably be a few years yet before this becomes necessary by the Council.

One important role that the Commission can play immediately is in the education of MNA Executives and Council members. The country representatives in each country are generally not aware of the multihull world, the types of boats available, the weight requirements, gender split, etc. For example, from the background information above, it quickly becomes obvious that one of the F18 classes would seem to fit the bill for an Open or Men’s multihull. What we need to do then is to collect information on spread of boats around the world, and more importantly the height, weight, age and gender of sailors at World Championships to show the competitiveness primarily of different weights and genders. This also holds true for any other type of boat we consider to be suitable.

The possibility of selecting one of the F18 classes for the Olympics is a serious consideration, but would have to be done carefully. Olympic selection is often detrimental to a class at club level, as the full-time sailors take their sailing to a new level of professionalism that club sailors just cannot match. In the past this often meant not only that the Olympic sailors were full-time athletes with professional coaching, but had at their disposal large development budgets that meant that even 1 or 2 year old boats were not competitive. Hopefully this development component would not be an issue with any new multihull, including the Tornado, if their one design sails are approved. The Laser class, the first manufacturer’s class to be introduced into the Olympics, does not seem to have been hurt at club level, and in fact has cemented it’s place even more firmly. It is hoped that if a manufacturer’s multihull were introduced then it would not be adversely affected.

The F18 Class Association is understandably hesitant that one of their classes may be selected and that it would be detrimental to the rest of the class. The alternative is to come up with a new “Olympic only” boat from one of the major manufacturers. However, to be gender and media friendly, it would probably be a 16 - 18 foot boat, with twin trapezes and a spinnaker, so to have such a close rival that was not an F18 would also be not desirable. To date, the F18 class events have welcomed professional Tornado sailors who have benefited by earning an income from the major manufacturers. Ideally this would continue with the Olympic sailors sailing the Olympic boat in World Cup events funded by their MNAs, and then potentially sailing a different manufacturer’s boat at open events such as Texel or an open F18 Worlds.

The debate amongst multihullers will be long, but hopefully informed and civilised, but the first item is to get a multihull, any multihull, back into the Olympics as the knock-on effect to all sailors and manufacturers is significant.

ISAF Youth World Championships
The discussion regarding the Youth Worlds has been continuing since 2007 when the multihull discipline was first dropped from the Olympics. It has always been felt that MNA’s may find it difficult to justify sending teams if they did not have a pathway to an Olympic Class. Fortunately, the Youth World Championship Sub-Committee subsequently ratified the current events and equipment for the forthcoming championships including the multihull in each event for the next three years. However we must continue to make sure that we have significant numbers at the Youth event and keep pressure on the Youth committee to retain the multihull in this event.

Pinnacle Event
There was much discussion about whether we need to replace the Olympics with another headline event. The options discussed were:


* World Cup – adding a multihull to the current World Cup circuit
* A new pinnacle event, e.g. a combined Worlds, outside of ISAF events
* 2011 ISAF World Championships


World Cup – this would be difficult to achieve as it would require convincing all the current event organisers. Even if agreement could be reached, it was felt that very few teams would travel to these events which would therefore become more of a local event, and potentially not a good showing for multihulls when compared to well funded international teams competing in Olympic Classes.

A new event – The discussion revolved around the idea of a combined event with some or all of A Class, Tornado, F18, Hobie 16 types of major classes. However the thinking was that in less than 2 years time we believe we will be back into the Olympics, and therefore back into the World Cup in 3 years time. Therefore, we are only looking for a short term pinnacle event. As most of these classes plan several years in advance, it would probably be at least 3 years before anything along these lines came about and would therefore be of little value.

2011 ISAF World Championships – This event is being run in Australia, and the CEO of the organising authority, John Longley, was in Korea. Discussions with John suggested that he would be supportive of a multihull, but that space was already a problem so it would probably need to be run as a precursor to the main event. The event is detailed in the ISAF Regulations as Olympic Classes only, so we would need to work around that with some clever wording. This would probably be a provided boat event, so then there the are the issues of: which boat; who supplies the boats; and whether or not competitors will travel to an event that is probably not a World Championship and may end up being a bit of a sideshow to the main event. If we don’t think that people will travel to the event, then should we put on a second class show or should we rely on our existing, Tornado, F18, A Class, Hobie 16 Worlds as the showcase events and invite ISAF Council members, perhaps as members of the Jury (several Council members are also IJs). Then again, there will be significant amount of television time, and if the multihull event is the only event during the lead up to the main event, we could attract excellent exposure.
Better Marketing or existing pinnacle events – Another view is that our current events are sufficient and that trying to cram in another event is not necessary, but what is necessary is that we market our existing events better to MNAs and voting Council members.

Looking back
There was very little discussion about the events of the last two years, only to note that realistically we lost the vote in 2007 when the multihull discipline was voted out and any efforts to overturn this initial decision were going to be difficult. The most recent vote of the IOC not to allow the 11th medal has to be seen in light of the fact that all requests from all sports for additional medals were rejected by the IOC other than for Boxing where they were given medals specifically for the first ever Women’s events for their sport. In the closed session of the Commission, there was a more open discussion about why we polled so poorly in 2007 and what we as a community need to do to change this in two years time.

Looking forward
In my opinion, what we need to do is:

* Monitor not only the recommendations of the Olympic Commission, but also try and gauge the level of acceptance of these recommendations by the voting members of the Council
* Provide information to MNA’s and Council members directly about what multihulls are out there, who sails them in terms of countries, gender, weight etc.
* Market our existing events to MNA’s and Council members
* Keep turning up in numbers to ISAF meetings and push our position at every opportunity.

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Has the option of a MIXED multihull ever been discussed?

meaning one male and one female/boat.

Think how that would shake things up!


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Not trying to say told you so but I've been advocating a mixed boat as the only way of getting a cat back into the Olympics in the short term, for a long time. It ticks all the PC brigades boxes and not a lot can be said against the idea.

As to what boat would suit the mixed crews, you all know where this is heading, yup the F16's and in particular the Viper which seems to handle the mixed weight of a two handed crew better. Remember fully kitted out physically fit girls and boys are not going to be the normal light weights. Just a suggestion folks. cool

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Good call on the F16's as they're an inclusive class that bob up at lots of local regatta's, they should be the youth boat as well.
As for ISAF stuff them they have no honor it's time for a new pinnacle for our sport. Olympic coverage of cats was pitiful to say the least I won't be watching the Olympics.


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I think recognizing the success of the mega-multihulls is good ammunition. It could be questioned "how will they recruit and develop their talent?" to which the answer would be "smaller multihulls".

In my opinon, this would reduce the learning curve of sailors from monohull talent pools and therefore reduce the overall cost of team development in the mega-multi organizations..


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Time for a new pinnacle !!!!.... Did you read between the lines.

None of us were going to attend. Their judgment is... we need to make the very best of the upcoming Worlds for the ISAF classes.

F16's and ISAF??. Do you really want to HAVE to get organized, and pay the taxes needed to have a legit world class that you run? This seems antithetical to the nature of the F16. ISAF can and has created an international class before and the existing F16 guys will either get on board or get run over. Why are the F18 guys so leery about Olympic Status? hmmm.

What surprised me was how limp wrist-ed the recommendations are for what to do now.

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* Monitor not only the recommendations of the Olympic Commission, but also try and gauge the level of acceptance of these recommendations by the voting members of the Council
* Provide information to MNA’s and Council members directly about what multihulls are out there, who sails them in terms of countries, gender, weight etc.
* Market our existing events to MNA’s and Council members
* Keep turning up in numbers to ISAF meetings and push our position at every opportunity.


Monitor ISAF.... Talk to our clueless MNA leaders.. .... Market our events... NOT TO US... but to the 200 + ISAF people.... Attend the meetings.

Not a word to the Cat Racers and their Class organizations.
So... this cake is baked... We had better whip up some great icing to sell it.


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Originally Posted by TEAMVMG
Has the option of a MIXED multihull ever been discussed?

meaning one male and one female/boat.

Think how that would shake things up!


Henderson tried for many years when he was ISAF president. He couldn't get it to go anywhere so I'd say it's a non-starter for a bunch of forum posters.

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John said space was an issue?????

Not sure how many fleets are coming.. The water area available is large enough being what 40 miles x 16 in Gage roads and there are 4 course areas on the river.. Maybe he is talking about rigging?
What about sailing the cats out of the cat club? If Nedlands isnt available? Or do all fleets need to be in the same rigging and water?

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My personal opinion on olympic status and ISAF is much in line with both the F18 and A-cat classes.

Basically, ISAF is a SMOD minded organisation and is therefore in direct conflict with the core character of the present catamaran sailing scene (Formula based), except the H16/Dart 18 class.

As result, olympic static or even ISAF membership can easily be a kiss of death to the most exiting cat classes. For as good as no real benefits, as ISAF boys really don't care much for cat classes anyway. I have always claimed it is better for cats to be outside of the (dictatorial) ISAF organisation then in. Or more specifically, to be aligned with them ONLY for so far it suits US !

I for one will not going to be appologizing to THEM for beign dismayed about THEIR action to snuff the Tornado as an Olympic class by (favoritish) politics.

I also believe the cat is current not organised well enough to make a fist. I feel that some time on our own may just what they doctor ordered to address this issue.

I feel that we an always get back in the Olympic at a later time if the cat scene wills it. A good first start would be the cooperation between classes. Why not work toward organising combined formula events F18/F16/F12/A-cat. This assumes the F12 gets formed and suits cat sailing newbies and youths. Otherwise I propose including a OD class formed around the Hobie Waves. Such events would provide a fully close cat sailing scene that addresses the needs/desires/budgets for any cat sailor and presents the cat scene a a viable alternative to keel boat or dinghy sailing. The parties will also be massive and each class will grow off the combined promotion and cross polination.

Basically get the Pipeline going and grow our footprint then at a later time negociated from a position of power rather then begging for an Olympic slot.

Wouter

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With regard to the F12.

I still believe this approach to be most attractive to solving the lack of (youth) entry into cat sailing.

I typically am not in stong favor of the Hobie wave because Hobie control (or attempts at it) is to big a risk to submit the whole catamaran scene to.

Remember, "whoever rocks the craddle rules the world".

And Hobie has proven time and time again to have a strong desire to play the power game and push others out of the scene. The saying "United we stand, divided well fall" is wasted on them.

Therefore the youth/adult entry class must be class open TO ALL catbuilders and organisations; not just only one. Only an F12 concept can provide that.

Additionally, I feel strongly about make the F12 a fast, lightweight but really simple to build and inexpensive boat. Making it small really helps to reduce the loads as something like an alu tube based unstayed rig would. This would be a major benefit to marketing this design to poorer countries and would allow licenced construction in those places. It is surprising how beneficial not requiring steel wires and custom items like mast steps can be. These things cost and are difficult to source or built in far off poor places.

Additionally, having a simple, lightweight, inexpensive but fast F12 is a great benefit when looking to supply boats to any event. It is a major different when organising to provide 20 boats of 4000 Bucks then 20 boats of 15.000 bucks. Also the costs associated to repairs will be MUCH lower. Especially when using standardized alu tubes for beams, boom AND mast. Sails and trampolines can always be patched up and by designing the boat with a skeg the only real items to break with some cost are the hulls and rudders. Although the hulls can be patched up as well.

I really do believe this F12 should be a simpler, lighter, faster and truly open version of say the Hobie Wave. Thus bridging the cap between the non-sailing or dinghy sailing public and the very exiting catamaran scene focussed on the A-cats/F18/F16 and also Hobie 16/Dart 18

Maybe we should give the F12 another really good try ? (Like the Pacer cat depicted in picture)


But I will now end this tangent of the ISAF discussion.,

Wouter

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I have never seen a persuasive answer ... much less a consensus on any of these questions.

Why do we need an Olympic Slot for cat racing health?

How will co-opting an existing class for Olympic sailing impact the current class and its members?

Why and How do the Olympic Multihull matter to members in my local club?

The best answer that I have is the Olympic Multihull:
1) Develops and pushes the technology which trickles down to all cat classes.
2) Generates stars and hero's who inspire the young and old.
3) The Olympics makes catamarans relevant and important to the Yacht Club world. (cough cough)

I am not convinced that Olympics are the only way to achieve these ends... much less agree with some of them.

Anybody want to change my mind or make a better argument?
I tend to agree with Wouter that building a broad based pyramid of cat racing will serve us much better then building a thin column of olympic sailors that ISAF can use to keep sailing in front of the TV cameras.


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I agree with you on these points, Mark.

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#1 argument: National sailing pinnacle is to represent your country in the olympics. No cat in the olympics means all training money goes to monohulls.

Our sport suffer from way too many classes with overlapping capabilities. Every manufacturer tries to start the new next SMOD with hope of making big, and by doing so dilute the existing classes. Rince, repeat.

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Originally Posted by Mark Schneider


Why do we need an Olympic Slot for cat racing health?



So that newcomers and youth/juniors have a tangeable ultimate goal that outsiders and National Authorities can understand.



If a youngster says to his parents that he has had a trip out on his mate's catamaran and he now wants to be F18 world champ one day, they will be impressed and wish him all the best. If he says that he wants to win the olympic multihull gold medal one day, parents can instantly relate to the potential for excellence that is available in the sport and may well get more interested themselves.

National Authorities have/are realizing that the same amount of money invested in sailing has more chance of producing medals than in most other sports. Cycling has this potential too. So they invest in the sport at all levels [mostly junior] to get these elusive medals.

It is never going to be you or I that are going to benefit from olympic status in our sport, it is the youth and investment at their level.

I have to say that my evidence shows that Hobie are very good at supporting junior sailing and work very well to get the national Authority money spent on their products to get them out there to the young sailors. In the UK we are lucky to have a scheme where Hobie owned dragoons are available to new junior teams to charter for a season at very reasonable cost, to get them involved.

The F12 thing is a good enough idea, but I have seen young teams at the back of the Dragoon fleet week after week, getting lapped and right off the pace. they stick at it because they know that all the boats are he same and if they keep training, the results will come. If they were sailing a formula, they would be tempted to think that their boat is just not as fast as the others and give up. F12 is a good idea for PARENTS not sailors.


Paul

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The F12 I was proposing in the end was alot more strickly controlled then say for example the A-cats or the F12 designs developped so far (which are basically smaller versions of A-cats with carbon masts etc)

Let me clarify. The F12 concept I strongly favor has much more in common with a OD class (but NOT a SMOD class). It does not rule on the crossectional shape of for example the beams or how the rudderstocks are fabricated or what diameter bolts are used to fasten stuff to the boat. But it does on the important parts with respect to performance.

Compare this F12 concept as very much like the Tornado class is now but with only one sail (the mainsail). It is also such a simplified design that there is very little to modify anyway like a laser dinghy.

Wouter

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For the US Sailor... National Authorities don't get too involved until you are on the world stage.

I am unconvinced that Olympic gold is that essential to a youth development program. At any rate... the US has NOTHING like this for multihull sailors
Quote

The US Finn Association is welcoming applications for the 2010 Finn
Development Program, designed to introduce single-handed sailors under the age
of 23 to the Finn and international competition. The selected sailor will be
provided a Finn for one year at a nominal cost, access to US Sailing and Finn
class training camps, shared coaching and reduced transportation costs to
international events. Similar to the US SAILING development program expanded
to include more classes, this program introduces top junior and collegiate
sailors to Olympic development sailing, and is particularly well suited to 85
kg plus sailors who wish to compete in single-handed Olympic class sailing.

Caleb Paine was the 2009 development sailor, competed in the 2009 Finn Gold
Cup, and has now purchased a Finn. The selected sailor for 2010 will work
closely with 2008 Silver Medalist Zach Railey and US SAILING High Performance
Coach Kenneth Andreasen. Selection will be by resume, and the selected sailor
will be expected to compete in all major US regattas and training camps, as
well as some international events. -- Full details:


How many classes in how many countries have development programs like this.

In catamarans... we simply don't compete.... I suggest.. we are less then serious and simply hoping to catch lightning in a bottle.

The reality check of what the challenge is for Olympics or World Class status hits a parent shortly after they discover how little support they will get from national sailing organizations. The Olympic dream, in catamarans in the USA is really quite hollow when your take a hard look at it



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