| That Cuban Run #198263 12/05/09 09:34 AM 12/05/09 09:34 AM |
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Posts: 2,718 St Petersburg FL | I have now witnessed two threads on SA regarding folks who want to purchase beach cats for this race.
First thread asking about a TheMightyHobie18. Second thread asking about a Boston Whaler Super Cat 19.
IMO both boats are clunkers, meaning they can work but how efficiently and open ocean seaworthy are they?
I hope the organizers and racers and "wannabee racers" understand the risks in this crossing. I also hope they are informing the Coast Guard about this particular race.
And I am posting this because if you think about it, two folks have posted openly about buying boats for this particular race. Think about all those who have not posted openly wanting to purchase boats for this event.
That race is gonna be scary...
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#198265 12/05/09 09:48 AM 12/05/09 09:48 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | What's the sea state usually like in those waters? How much ship traffic?
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#198273 12/05/09 10:23 AM 12/05/09 10:23 AM |
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Posts: 2,718 St Petersburg FL | Yeah in July not in November.
AND NOVEMBER IS STILL FREAKING HURRICANE SEASON!
If this race does go on I will have a chat with my top Guardian gurus so we can be on high alert.
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#198277 12/05/09 10:41 AM 12/05/09 10:41 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | You never get pictures of those that don't make it.
Tad, you made my point exactly. If you look at the charts, the Gulf stream practically touches Singer Island (West Palm Beach). I sailed there once with the wind out of the north, not that much wind, but the seas were really rough. I can't imagine a small cat offshore in it.
Very cool though, lots of sargassum weed with the attendant critters, and flying fish.
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#198286 12/05/09 12:27 PM 12/05/09 12:27 PM |
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | Its crossing the gulf stream Pete. Meaning that there's mondo current and waves can stack up pretty badly.
IMO, the race organizers need to be selectively reviewing the sailing resumes of all the registrants. I know that Chuck has told more than one person that they aren't ready to participate in the Tybee 500 which is, an order of magnitude safer than the Cuban race will be. Not just the Gulf Stream but the current is funneled/bottlenecked between Fl and Cuba. I talked with the organizer at the GT 300 .He does not seem to be a "take a whack at it" kind of guy(he attempted a Worrell in the late 90's). I think they will have a sensible and safe(as possible) approach to this race. My worries lie more with the Dept. of treasury letting it go. This IS'NT a novice type race!
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
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#198287 12/05/09 12:28 PM 12/05/09 12:28 PM |
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | I don't want to turn this into a bunch of BS about boats but......
If I'm going out on the open ocean with my life on the line, I'd choose the H-18 over most any beach cat availible. How many times have you done that(offshore racing on a H-18)?
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
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#198288 12/05/09 12:33 PM 12/05/09 12:33 PM |
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | You never get pictures of those that don't make it.
Tad, you made my point exactly. If you look at the charts, the Gulf stream practically touches Singer Island (West Palm Beach). I sailed there once with the wind out of the north, not that much wind, but the seas were really rough. I can't imagine a small cat offshore in it.
Very cool though, lots of sargassum weed with the attendant critters, and flying fish. The 2008 Tybee had sporty wind from the NE on that leg, it was LUMPY. Karl did a superb job of keeping his feet on the boat and grindin' out the puffs, it was tough. I didn't realize the Stream was so close there, but that explains alot.
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
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#198308 12/05/09 03:29 PM 12/05/09 03:29 PM |
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Posts: 2,718 St Petersburg FL | I don't want to turn this into a bunch of BS about boats but......
If I'm going out on the open ocean with my life on the line, I'd choose the H-18 over most any beach cat availible. You Sir have a big set of cojones. I am saying that in a good way as well. | | |
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