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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Smiths_Cat] #202692
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Originally Posted by Smiths_Cat
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where did you find the 121' listed?


here: http://www.yachtingworld.com/fileBank/PDF/ac2010_preview_part_1.pdf

Jake,

I think we can agree that both teams violate the intention of LWL rule (and some other rules). It wasn't okay with the J boats, and it isn't ok today. Honestly I don't know if there is a more illegal or less illegal.
If BMWO or Alinghi wins the cup in the court and not on the water, it will be a shame. The boats are good, not 100% to the rules, but only a victory on the water without an aftermath in court can save was left over from the cup.

Cheers,

Klaus


I'll agree that using LWL is an inadequate way to define a modern sailboat measurement rule...how about that? wink :


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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Jake] #202702
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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Tony_F18] #202706
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Tony:

Is that the Alinghi team that is sailing radio controlled boats? Match racing with those for the Ant-mercias Cup.

Later,
Dan

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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Dan_Delave] #202721
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Originally Posted by Dan_Delave
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Tony:

Is that the Alinghi team that is sailing radio controlled boats? Match racing with those for the Ant-mercias Cup.

Later,
Dan

Yeah I think they where Alinghi team members, after they built the cat this was all they had left for training tools wink
The Alinghi base is very interesting though, they have a match racing simulator game with a moving **** etc.
Also a demo of realtime camera sailshape analysis (see pic).
There is also a fiberoptic sensor demo, pretty cool to bend a carbon rod and see in a monitor just how much bend there is etc.
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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Tony_F18] #202729
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That's really cool, perhaps EB should have put more carbon in the boat so his lake boat could stand up to waves over 3ft. He can't sail his boat in more than that because any pitching of the mast will have the load sensors screaming......or in his case whining.


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Originally Posted by PTP


y'all be sure to click on that link. That is one of the most popular nytimes articles (online) in the last few days.


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No racing today. Alinghi sites a wave height of 1.2 meters and in a perpendicular direction to the predominant wind. I believe the wind was near 20 at the starting area. We're waiting for the BMW response (press conference forthcoming shortly) - they might not have agreed with the decision.


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I only saw a few seconds of Spithill talking and he said that they were ready to go race but they were OK with the decision and had full faith the the PRO.


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The front page article on the SA site nailed it:

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/index_page1.php



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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: ] #202768
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Nice to hear Spithill giving lots of credit to the multihull sailors in the team


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from Spithill:

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"We were keen to go," he said. "We think that 10:00 (the scheduled time for the warning signal in the Sailing Instructions) was the window and we probably could have got one away. Having said that, I think (Principal Race Officer) Harold Bennett is the right man for the job… I’ve got full trust in Harold…


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Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by PTP


y'all be sure to click on that link. That is one of the most popular nytimes articles (online) in the last few days.


Good article, but as typical for the NY times it was mostly about Alinghi, not about USA 17, but it was a well written piece.

Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #202773
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They definitely wouldn't be racing here on the Outer Banks today steady 25 gusting to 60 . They just closed schools for high winds and flooding. I really feel for the people North of us that are getting this with snow. Stay safe and warm.


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Re: America's Cup Countdown [Re: Jake] #202775
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In the beginning of the PC he said that the others that were to join him slipped away leaving him alone. I think that says something about what they really wanted to do. I don"t believe the others would have been a diplomatic.


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Do I understand correctly that they had 15 knots of wind and 3-4-foot waves? And it was considered too dangerous for these large multihulls? That doesn't do much for the image of multihulls.

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Originally Posted by catman
In the beginning of the PC he said that the others that were to join him slipped away leaving him alone. I think that says something about what they really wanted to do. I don"t believe the others would have been a diplomatic.


It was announced just before the press conference that racing was cancelled. Presumably they all slipped away to put all the gear and sails away and prepare the boat to stay on the mooring.


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Originally Posted by Mary
Do I understand correctly that they had 15 knots of wind and 3-4-foot waves? And it was considered too dangerous for these large multihulls? That doesn't do much for the image of multihulls.


They had 18 knots - but yes...that pretty much sums it up. USA was ready to go. It's better for multihulls that they didn't have a race than to have one and have one of the boats implode in those conditions.


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Which load exactly should it be that breaks a 100ft catamaran when it goes through a 3ft wave?
I am pretty sure the boat wouldn't break. 1 m waves translates to too much wind to have a chance against BMWO.

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