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Re: WHO'S YO DADDY [Re: Keith] #203268
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Originally Posted by Keith
Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
Originally Posted by Keith
Originally Posted by DougSnell
Originally Posted by Will_R
I wish I could get the espn coverage, but the BMWO site was smoother than the AC one was.


Will:

I had to use IE 8.0 to get ESPN360 to load the move player....Worked fine then and I like Jobson and Symth commentary.

Doug


It worked fine for me with Firefox. On replay I think I prefer the ESPN360 coverage, even though it's Jobson.


Which edition/version Firefox are you running? I've loaded 3 different versions multiple times and can't get 360 to run. I've got a case in with there support, but even there list of stuff to do was no help.


Firefox 3.5.7 Toshiba laptop T3400 2.16GHz, 3.0 GB RAM. Running it through the USB docking to the 23" monitor (it got a little fuzzy on full screen, ESPN360 better than the others).



I think your problem might not be Firefox but with Adobe Flashplayer.
Try reinstalling and see how that works:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/

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Re: WHO'S YO DADDY [Re: Tony_F18] #203273
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or try google chrome.


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Re: WHO'S YO DADDY [Re: Tony_F18] #203281
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Originally Posted by Tony_F18
Originally Posted by Keith
Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
Originally Posted by Keith
Originally Posted by DougSnell
[quote=Will_R]I wish I could get the espn coverage, but the BMWO site was smoother than the AC one was.


Will:

I had to use IE 8.0 to get ESPN360 to load the move player....Worked fine then and I like Jobson and Symth commentary.

Doug


It worked fine for me with Firefox. On replay I think I prefer the ESPN360 coverage, even though it's Jobson.


Which edition/version Firefox are you running? I've loaded 3 different versions multiple times and can't get 360 to run. I've got a case in with there support, but even there list of stuff to do was no help.


Firefox 3.5.7 Toshiba laptop T3400 2.16GHz, 3.0 GB RAM. Running it through the USB docking to the 23" monitor (it got a little fuzzy on full screen, ESPN360 better than the others).



I think your problem might not be Firefox but with Adobe Flashplayer.
Try reinstalling and see how that works:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/ [/quote]

Done that 3 different versions 3 different times.I still think that's the prob somehow but...

I'll try chrome, like Jake suggested.


OK ,tried all that stuff again
Tried Chrome and reloading Flashplayer , still can't get Justintv ,espn 360,or the BMWO site. Screw it I give up. I guess I'm stuck with hearing Cam talk about how great he is.

Last edited by Team_Cat_Fever; 02/13/10 07:27 PM. Reason: update

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Re: WHO'S YO DADDY [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #203282
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I don't even get that far... Time Warner is not paying for ESPN360 ... no Smyth commentary for me... sigh.


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Re: WHO'S YO DADDY [Re: Mark Schneider] #203286
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The support folks at ESPN360 got me straight.
In settings a tab about 3rd party content storage needed to be checked off. I believe that got me squared away for all the sites.


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Re: WHO'S YO DADDY [Re: Keith] #203287
02/13/10 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Keith
Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
Originally Posted by Keith
Originally Posted by DougSnell
Originally Posted by Will_R
I wish I could get the espn coverage, but the BMWO site was smoother than the AC one was.




Will:

I had to use IE 8.0 to get ESPN360 to load the move player....Worked fine then and I like Jobson and Symth commentary.

Doug


It worked fine for me with Firefox. On replay I think I prefer the ESPN360 coverage, even though it's Jobson.


Which edition/version Firefox are you running? I've loaded 3 different versions multiple times and can't get 360 to run. I've got a case in with there support, but even there list of stuff to do was no help.


[quote\]
Firefox 3.5.7 Toshiba laptop T3400 2.16GHz, 3.0 GB RAM. Running it through the USB docking to the 23" monitor (it got a little fuzzy on full screen, ESPN360 better than the others).





Keith:

I have Firefox 3.6 and it would not load the move player. I used IE 8.0 and ESPN360 worked fine. I watched the whole race Friday with no problem. Nice having Randy Symth as a cat expert.

Doug

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Re: WHO'S YO DADDY [Re: Keith] #203373
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Well OK perhap TAPES was the wrong word should have said recordings, vids, zips, flash, ect... my ISP was not included in the ESPN 360 group. Now I'll plug in 3 dog night tape into my 8 track and wait for a reply. ..........But what an awsome race even if I had to listen to the old British dude and not Randy.


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Re: WHO'S YO DADDY [Re: TheManShed] #203538
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They even had a side discussion about the F16 and F18 classes


Randy couldnt stop talking about the A-Cat class and the curved boards, it was a full on commercial for Acats. The last thing that Gary said before he signed off was that he was going to West River to race Acats.

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Re: WHO'S YO DADDY [Re: bvining] #203541
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I sent Gary an Email giving him and Randy some thanks.I told him I hoped now he realized what all the buzz with multihulls was about and that he WOULD come to West River and try out an A. He replied today with: "Let's connect in April or so." I think that is encouraging. I truly hope he does try out a cat, maybe it would be a good step forward with US Sailing.We'll see.
Todd


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Re: WHO'S YO DADDY [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #203549
02/15/10 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
I sent Gary an Email giving him and Randy some thanks.I told him I hoped now he realized what all the buzz with multihulls was about and that he WOULD come to West River and try out an A. He replied today with: "Let's connect in April or so." I think that is encouraging. I truly hope he does try out a cat, maybe it would be a good step forward with US Sailing.We'll see.
Todd


Thanks buddy

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I send Gary an Email:

Mr. Jobson,

I hear that you and Randy did an outstanding job on your commentary for the America's Cup races. Unfortunately my ISP does not carry the ESP 360 broadcast and I had to listen to the Official AC33 commentary. Are there plans to make your commentary available to the general public? I would be very interested in obtaining a copy of the broadcast, as I know others would from the blogs on the Cat Sailor forum.

Regards,

Mike Shappell

And here was his reply:

Mike: sorry your carrier did not include us. bummer. I hope to have some kind of wrap up at some point best Gary Jobson


So it looks like there will be something available for those of us unlucky enough not to receive ESPN360. I'll keep you posted.


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Re: WHO'S YO DADDY [Re: ] #203552
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Originally Posted by DUH
Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
I sent Gary an Email giving him and Randy some thanks.I told him I hoped now he realized what all the buzz with multihulls was about and that he WOULD come to West River and try out an A. He replied today with: "Let's connect in April or so." I think that is encouraging. I truly hope he does try out a cat, maybe it would be a good step forward with US Sailing.We'll see.
Todd


Thanks buddy

You oughta listen when your on the phone,I told you about that.


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Re: WHO'S YO DADDY [Re: ] #203567
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I truly hope he does try out a cat, maybe it would be a good step forward with US Sailing.We'll see.


When he does show up, you should let him win.

Re: WHO'S YO DADDY [Re: bvining] #203579
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I truly hope he does try out a cat, maybe it would be a good step forward with US Sailing.We'll see.


When he does show up, you should let him win.


But then wouldn't he consider himself a "master" and bloviate about how easily transferrable his vast lead-mine experience is to cats?

I mean, really, even someone with only a small fraction of sailing experience would see that not all mono techniques transfer to cats. Not the least of which is the speed which dictates a much different strategy on fleet races (like "connect the dots of pressure" vs. waiting for wind to catch you)


Jay

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I truly hope he does try out a cat, maybe it would be a good step forward with US Sailing.We'll see.


When he does show up, you should let him win.


I'm not sure that's in my genetic makeup. The "let" part.


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Re: WHO'S YO DADDY [Re: waterbug_wpb] #203589
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vs. waiting for wind to catch you

dont recall doing that in my less enlightened days of racing halfboats.

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Maybe not, but I was stuck on 4KSB's for almost 2 decades. You didn't really do a lot of "hunting" for pressure. You picked a side you thought had good pressure, turned and threw up as much cloth as possible and drove straight down trying not to spill your drink or wake up the captain. Major changes came when the top of the course got wind and everyone drove down (at 4 kts) on the leaders who were parked in light air.

And when I talk 4KSB, I'm talking boats that considered Tartan 31 "the boat to beat". J-24 were considered "too much work and tipped too much" smile On a good regatta, you were lucky to get TWO races per day if the wind was up....

Today, perhaps those boats better fit "Spin B" or similar categories.


The concept of "sport boat" had me salavating until I found myself owning a N20, at which point the heavens opened, a beam of light shown down, a dove flew down and a voice proclaimed "it is good".


Jay

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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Maybe not, but I was stuck on 4KSB's for almost 2 decades. You didn't really do a lot of "hunting" for pressure. You picked a side you thought had good pressure, turned and threw up as much cloth as possible and drove straight down trying not to spill your drink or wake up the captain. Major changes came when the top of the course got wind and everyone drove down (at 4 kts) on the leaders who were parked in light air.

And when I talk 4KSB, I'm talking boats that considered Tartan 31 "the boat to beat". J-24 were considered "too much work and tipped too much" smile On a good regatta, you were lucky to get TWO races per day if the wind was up....

Today, perhaps those boats better fit "Spin B" or similar categories.


The concept of "sport boat" had me salavating until I found myself owning a N20, at which point the heavens opened, a beam of light shown down, a dove flew down and a voice proclaimed "it is good".


I used to have fun trying to convince the folks on the SA Sportboat forum that multis fit the definition of a sport boat, especiallly N-20s when you talk about Vipers, Lasers, and M-20s. You would have thought I was bringing on the downfall of the life on Earth as we know it. Back before there was a multi forum life was more interesting over there...

A couple of years ago there were headlines that Jobson was writing a book on A-Cats. I was all like "wow! He's really crossing over here!" Then I found out there is an old class of cat boats called A-Cats, and there's folks that still race them. Here's hoping he's not confused! Come to think of it, the cat boat A's just might measure in. Put curved leeboards and a wingsail on one...

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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb

...I was stuck on 4KSB's for almost 2 decades...
Major changes came when the top of the course got wind and everyone drove down (at 4 kts) on the leaders who were parked in light air.

And when I talk 4KSB, I'm talking boats that considered Tartan 31 "the boat to beat". J-24 were considered "too much work and tipped too much" smile On a good regatta, you were lucky to get TWO races per day if the wind was up....

Today, perhaps those boats better fit "Spin B" or similar categories.

...


That pretty much describes my sailing life from 1973 to 1983... We used to fill mineral water bottles with colorless vodka... It was fun. Slow, but fun!


Luiz
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Originally Posted by Luiz
That pretty much describes my sailing life from 1973 to 1983... We used to fill mineral water bottles with colorless vodka... It was fun. Slow, but fun!


Wow, you must have been in on some of our regattas! I think the only reason I was on the boat was to drive when the crew got too tanked to find the finish line ( I was too young to realize the fun of drinking & sailing).

I do recall one race on a 35+/- foot 4KSB where, upon the "tactician" (the guy who just stepped up the companionway and who was looking aft) said "Hey, we're the only ones with a spinnaker up", at which point the wind picked up, burying our leeward rail. My dad (steering at the time) had the tiller pinned on the opposite rail and said, calmly, "hold on..."

It is hard to recall what exactly transpired next above the din of clinking bottles and general chaos. Literally hanging vertically from the stb. lifeline watching untold numers of rum bottles and budweiser cans floating off the port rail, I believe we were in full broach position for almost 30 seconds. Eventually, someone thought "perhaps I should ease the spin sheet", which flew out of the **** and eventually flogged off the spinnaker entirely.

After it was determined all personnel were accounted for and no injuries, the crew made it clear in no uncertain terms that we HAD to retrieve the floating bottles so as not to be left carrying on without proper "motivation" to ensure our "safe return to the clubhouse". As a 4KSB, we hadn't really drifted far from the flotsam, so it was a matter of minutes to fetch said "motivation" (another reason I firmly believe I was aboard at the time).

Good times.

Maybe the advent of sportboats and high performance multihulls has led to the decline in drinking while racing. Of course, it might also have contributed to the rise in drinking AFTER racing, but that's another story....


Jay

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