3M do the shark film I think. Not as simple as slapping it on as it has to be made to suit the speed and length of you boat. An expensive exercise. Not sure that it's legal in any dinghy or cat classes either. I know polymer is definitely banned.

You would have to have some serious skills to attempt carbon beams and masts. And when time is factored into the equation the price becomes outrageous.

Slight correction here Aido - the Arrow mast comes delivered to Brisvegas for $70 + a carton of Coronas for freight.

Its irrevelent at what height the front stay joins the front bridle, as long as the front stay base remains on the centre line, as soon as there is any rotation of the top point an arc will form however small ( basically the radius of the distance between top point and bottom point looking straight down ), causing the mast rake to change.

I personally would favour a change in the rule to allow mast rake, it would on long distance racing help reduce an over powered rig. After all we are a semi develpment class, whats the problem.

However from other class's which have gone down this route, around short form racing, the time lost to set up the canted rig far out ways just sailing the boat and keeping in front in clean air.

Any way Macca is bored and just raising pedantic points of no real worth to the class to basically wind people up. When Macca designs, builds and races a boat within the class then I think we should start to take more notice of his internet scribblings. Up until that point he is just another interested internet scribe in my view and his views are just that, internet musings.

Bridle height does influence change in rake with cant...see image.

Other than that, I agree with your sentiments about macca.

F.5.1 RULES
(a) The bowsprit shall be on the longitudinal centreline of the boat

"THESE RULES ARE CLOSED CLASS RULES
WHEREBY IF IT DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT YOU MAY – THEN YOU SHALL NOT."

http://www.formula16.net/forum/showthread.php?t=163

There is an amended version in the works.

Event though I have paid my membership fee, I am still unable to log into the F16 forum thingy, so I can't download the latest and greatest rules.

For all I know, the Minimum weight has been changed to 125kg and carbon beams and masts are banned...

You need to contact the web guy to get you in.

Dreams are free, my advice is to dream of a very pretty girl and ask her for her telephone number, when she replies and you wake up, try ringing that number. The odds of that same very pretty girl being on the end of the line would be about the same as "the Minimum weight has been changed to 125kg and carbon beams and masts are banned"

Doing a Macca here, altering the front stay bottom position alone will not cant the rig, the side stays length have to be altered or the mast base position ( easiest and most beneficial in our boats ).

If this is a serious proposal then I'm furiously against it.

This goes against everything the F16 was funded upon.

Wouter

uh oh [size:11pt] [/size]

Wars have started over less......

Nothing better than using a quote out of context - ehh Pete?

Wow!!! I just had the most amazing dream!!!

The pretty girl answered when I called the number, just like you said! Fantastic stuff Wayne, what other tricks do you do??

Can't wait to see the new class rules

Did I!? Correct it please!

What user name or emial address did you register with on the forum Macca?

My normal one, but i'm not loosing any sleep over it..

When I need a login I will sort it out.

There is noone called Macca registered on the F16 class forum.

Dreaming about pretty girls answering telephones and 125kg F16's ah well the forums will be quiet without you.

"Wow!!! I just had the most amazing dream!!!

The pretty girl answered when I called the number, just like you said! Fantastic stuff Wayne, what other tricks do you do"??

Dude, you're really scaring me now! Don't ask Wayne things like that! Ask HER what other tricks SHE can do!

arrrgghhh. my explanation is not enough...looking at the picture it is arranged for two boats, one with a high bridle (as normal for a beach cat) and one with a low bridle (not normal and used for illustrative purposes only).

the rakes are shown for the upright positions of the rigs.

then beside each of those is the canted rigs (with sidestay adjustment) for high and low bridles. notice that the high bridle decreases rake with cant and the low bridle increases rake with cant.

the only way to cant the rig without also changing the rake is for the forestay attachment to be at the same height as the mast step. this is with a fixed length forestay which our class rules require with the rig tension adjustment requirements.

mmm...pretty girls on pretty boats...it is my happy place