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Re: Falcon compared to Viper [Re: ] #206854
03/26/10 05:25 PM
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Eek. Probably, depends on the weather. That is one tiny little F'd up lake.

If you want to sail it in a non-regatta type scenario let me know. (Cause who wants to get back on the water after a long day) I've still got the FXone, probably will for a while, and can probably get them both to the lake fairly easily. And I'm sure I could make room in one of the spare bedrooms too so you didn't have to drive back the same day.

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Re: Falcon compared to Viper [Re: Karl_Brogger] #206855
03/26/10 05:45 PM
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I know what you're saying smile. I'm sure it has the highest capsize rate of any venue we sail at.

A trip up north would be good (once it warms up smile ). Thanks for the offer.

Re: Falcon compared to Viper [Re: pepin] #206873
03/26/10 07:27 PM
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If what you say is true and the stealth is really that bad then strap 50kgs of lead and that should solve it! grin

The Taipan is another very old design that you may not have been aware of that absolutely smoked the 5.2 in every aspect and then there are even older designs like the Mosquito and Acats that handled reasonably well. wink

I’d liken your analogy to the deference in feel to the equivalent of comparing a moving van to a Ferrari and you are telling us that the moving van handles better… grin

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Lighter boats are easier to handle?? On the beach yes, but on the water I don't agree with you at all.
From experience I would say the heavier boats are less flighty, more forgiving and easier to drive.
But Hell... what do I know?
I agree. Moving from the 5.2 (big, heavy, really heavy) to the Stealth (probably half the weight, or close to it) the difference on the water is huge:

In light wind it is actually easier to sail the 5.2. Once it gets some speed it will not stop. In stealth you move your but 50cms one way or another and that's enough to stop the boat dead...

In high wind you better be quick on the Stealth when a gust hits. On the 5.2 you have time to sheet out or go on the trapeze. On the Stealth if you are not quick enough, you're in for a bath.


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Re: Falcon compared to Viper [Re: ] #206876
03/26/10 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkMT
I'm sure it has the highest capsize rate of any venue we sail at.


Doesn't matter, I can do it in the ocean pretty easily too.
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Re: Falcon compared to Viper [Re: ] #225414
12/14/10 04:06 AM
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Thanks Rick (or whoever) for deleting the post from "vin".

Sorry Karl but now your post below seems completely random???

Last edited by Jalani; 12/14/10 07:47 AM. Reason: post it referred to has been removed

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Re: Falcon compared to Viper [Re: Jalani] #225422
12/14/10 07:32 AM
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SPAM is made about a half hour from my house.

whew! Glad everybody knows that now.


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Re: Falcon compared to Viper [Re: Karl_Brogger] #226347
01/06/11 01:12 PM
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Great thread! Learned quite a lot!


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Re: Falcon compared to Viper [Re: SIAM] #226655
01/11/11 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SIAM
Are there any other major differences?


I have been threw this thread a few times and keep hopping I missed the answer to this question.


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Re: Falcon compared to Viper [Re: frozencdn] #226661
01/11/11 09:49 PM
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Nope. smile


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Re: Falcon compared to Viper [Re: Wouter] #226963
01/18/11 02:42 AM
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New data suggest a offline too.....


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Re: Falcon compared to Viper [Re: mazda] #226972
01/18/11 07:45 AM
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Okay,

But if anybody feels their question has been left unanswered then please restate it and I'll try to answer it.

Wouter

Last edited by Wouter; 01/18/11 07:45 AM.

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