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#218011 08/23/10 09:27 AM 08/23/10 09:27 AM |
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Posts: 1,246 Orlando, FL | OK, here's a question for the group at large:
At a "Nationals" (ie. the biggest "title" event you will race in the entire year, costing you thousands of dollars and a week or more off work) do you want to share the race course with several other fleets, and wait for them to all finish before you can start your next race, or would you rather only have to duck and dodge and wait on boats you are actually racing against?
I'm happy to share the course at just about every regatta, the way we always have, but at the 'one big event' of the year, I don't think having our own separate course is too much to ask. Who says we have to wait for all the other boats to finish? Only our F16 fleet. We can have independent starts after the initial rolling start. This works pretty well at Spring Fever (they finish at the top of the course and once all the F16 finish and head down to the bottom for the start they sound the 5 minute gun). I'm not opposed to sharing the course. Logistically it's easier for the hosting club. I say, Just Sail! Hit the beach afterwards and pop a brew with everyone that participated. my 0.02. tback
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#218012 08/23/10 09:32 AM 08/23/10 09:32 AM |
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | Take a look at how the Hobie class assn bundles NA's on a circle. They have lots of wisdom on how to do this properly.
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#218014 08/23/10 09:45 AM 08/23/10 09:45 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | At Racine there were two courses, well separated. F18s were by themselves for the main event. The rest of us shared a course. No problems.
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#218015 08/23/10 10:02 AM 08/23/10 10:02 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Pete, do you know if the Pt. Roton club would be willing to do that for our 2012 NA's?
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Posts: 5,525 | I think that's premature. We need to see how many of our folks are in favor of that venue.
My guess would be that with enough boats they would.
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Posts: 5,525 | So what's your vote (both of you). Roton Point or Panama City?
Karl? (you gotta pick one, no abstentions)
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#218023 08/23/10 01:01 PM 08/23/10 01:01 PM |
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | Karl? (you gotta pick one, no absentions) My inclination is for Roton Point in 2012, then Panama City in 2013. I'm not saying "no" to either than way Mostly because I've driven to Florida I think six times in the past 18 months, and I have hardly been on the east coast.
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#218027 08/23/10 01:42 PM 08/23/10 01:42 PM |
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Posts: 1,246 Orlando, FL | So what's your vote (both of you). Roton Point or Panama City?
Karl? (you gotta pick one, no abstentions) I like doing both locations 2012 and 2013. The question which comes first? I'm not hard pressed as I could go with either ... I suppose since 2011 is already north for a majority of the F16 fleet I would propose: 2012 Panama City 2013 Roton Point
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#218034 08/23/10 02:33 PM 08/23/10 02:33 PM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | I wonder what it would cost to ship a boat on the "Auto Train"...? Or if they would even allow it? I guess storing the mast might be a problem.
In keeping with the North-South alternating thing, obviously Panama City should come after MD, then Roton Point, but I'm not driving 20 hours for a regatta so it doesn't really matter to me when you do it in Roton Point.
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#218046 08/23/10 03:47 PM 08/23/10 03:47 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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I'm not driving 20 hours for a regatta so it doesn't really matter to me when you do it in Roton Point.
Pussy.
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Posts: 5,525 | Get with Matt. He has a trailer of some sort...
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#218076 08/24/10 03:10 AM 08/24/10 03:10 AM |
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Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... | I wonder what it would cost to ship a boat on the "Auto Train"...? Or if they would even allow it? I guess storing the mast might be a problem.
In keeping with the North-South alternating thing, obviously Panama City should come after MD, then Roton Point, but I'm not driving 20 hours for a regatta so it doesn't really matter to me when you do it in Roton Point. What about using a 40 foot container and get it trucked or train?
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#218086 08/24/10 07:23 AM 08/24/10 07:23 AM |
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In keeping with the North-South alternating thing, obviously Panama City should come after MD, then Roton Point, but I'm not driving 20 hours for a regatta so it doesn't really matter to me when you do it in Roton Point. I think quite a few people agree with you Tim on the 20 hours for a regatta. They just aren't saying it, but I'm one of them! Even being double stacked with someone and sharing the driving, would very much suck on a 20 hour drive. DING, I'm a pussy too!
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#218087 08/24/10 07:28 AM 08/24/10 07:28 AM |
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Posts: 439 Memphis, TN | I've got some more stuff later, but I just got from a quick trip over the weekend and need to look at some work stuff before surfing!
So, more later on this subject from me.
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Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | Hey, I'm not saying the drive is something we look forward to but in our case we have several NE teams that make the trek south every year for a 3 day regatta and the very least we can do is make the trip north for North Americans . Although Hyannis is 24 hours away the drive time isn’t even a consideration when it comes to making the decision to attend. For us it's time and money and we have both so we are going to Hyannis. Haven’t your northern buddies made several trips south? For that reason alone the drive time north shouldn’t even be a valid excuse. Hell Pete made the trek to Racine to sleep in a tent! So sack up princesses, the drive will go by quickly and you’ll have a great time.
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Posts: 439 Memphis, TN | Money is a factor for me also, but that's part of the driving a long way. I think, I need to look again, but the fuel cost alone was going to be about a grand, plus vacation days! Get's expensive quick! So, for me, anything after a 14 hour drive starts getting me to think twice. The reason why it's 14 hours is because I know I can drive that myself in a day and I already know the cost roughly. After that, it's beginning to cost me more, almost twice as much cause of vacation and stuff like that. I do return the favors though. I plan on going to Maryland!
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