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Re: Some total jerk stole my inter 2 [Re: catman] #219548 09/14/10 10:48 AM 09/14/10 10:48 AM
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MN3 Unregistered M	Originally Posted by catman Signs don't work. Sail Honeymoon ( water sports rental op.) has signs that warn the area is under video surveillance. This weekend he was telling us about two guys being serviced by one girl in full view of the cameras. People that are drunk,high,homeless or horny don't care about signs. LOL, And that's a lot of people! Heck, most of the sailors fit somewhere in that list (if not all of that list)

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Re: Some total jerk stole my inter 2 [Re: ThunderMuffin] #219551 09/14/10 11:45 AM 09/14/10 11:45 AM
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F18_VB journeyman F Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 71	The best advice i have heard is to put a tarp over it with white paint dropped all over it to make it look like bird poo. No one will try and sit on it then. On my beach, we learned to take the boat off the wheels so that there is less room for bums to sleep or make fires under the tramp.

Re: Some total jerk stole my inter 2 [Re: F18_VB] #219552 09/14/10 11:57 AM 09/14/10 11:57 AM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,969 B brucat Carpal Tunnel
brucat Carpal Tunnel B Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,969	Yeah... If your boat is on a public beach, you really just need to assume the worst and prepare for it as best you can. You don't really have "private property" rights, and even if you do, no one is going to respect them (for a thousand different reasons). If I had a boat with rudders worth $1000, there is absolutely no way they would be on my boat overnight, unless it was at a regatta with at least 30 others like it (even then, it would have to be a very secluded regatta site, and I'd still think twice about it). Mike

Re: Some total jerk stole my inter 2 [Re: brucat] #219555 09/14/10 12:06 PM 09/14/10 12:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,655 Portland, Maine T ThunderMuffin Carpal Tunnel
ThunderMuffin Carpal Tunnel T Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,655 Portland, Maine	I don't think I buy the "you forfeit your rights to private property when you park it on the beach". I park my car in "public" parking lots all the time. I have a "reasonable" expectation that my private property will not be tampered with even though there's no warning or proactive enforcement mechanism. I think that you're right though - these days you have to basically expect that your property will be vandalized or otherwise used without your consent. Sad really.

Re: Some total jerk stole my inter 2 [Re: ThunderMuffin] #219564 09/14/10 12:52 PM 09/14/10 12:52 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,969 B brucat Carpal Tunnel
brucat Carpal Tunnel B Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,969	I didn't say it was OK in any way... In some ways it's the same, but in so many others, it's really different to park a boat on a beach compared to a car in a parking lot. Conceptually, it's totally the same, but actually, it's just very different. For example, no one breaks into cars to have "relations" (maybe a pickup bed?), cars can't be pushed onto a freeway to see what would happen, etc... Mike

Re: Some total jerk stole my inter 2 [Re: brucat] #219568 09/14/10 01:18 PM 09/14/10 01:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,655 Portland, Maine T ThunderMuffin Carpal Tunnel
ThunderMuffin Carpal Tunnel T Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,655 Portland, Maine	Quote For example, no one breaks into cars to have "relations" (maybe a pickup bed?), cars can't be pushed onto a freeway to see what would happen, etc... I don't know - I think both examples you could find ancedotal evidence to the contrary

Re: Some total jerk stole my inter 2 [Re: ThunderMuffin] #219573 09/14/10 02:14 PM 09/14/10 02:14 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,969 B brucat Carpal Tunnel
brucat Carpal Tunnel B Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,969	I know, I was thinking that as I was typing it... Never say never...

Re: Some total jerk stole my inter 2 [Re: brucat] #219575 09/14/10 02:56 PM 09/14/10 02:56 PM
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MN3 Unregistered M	Originally Posted by brucat For example, no one breaks into cars to have "relations" (maybe a pickup bed?), cars can't be pushed onto a freeway to see what would happen, etc... Tell that to James Bond's repair man

Re: Some total jerk stole my inter 2 [Re: brucat] #219576 09/14/10 03:04 PM 09/14/10 03:04 PM
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MN3 Unregistered M	Originally Posted by brucat If I had a boat with rudders worth $1000, there is absolutely no way they would be on my boat overnight, unless it was at a regatta with at least 30 others like it (even then, it would have to be a very secluded regatta site, and I'd still think twice about it). $1000 isn't to hard to get to that value with boat parts. What would upper and lower casting (plus the rudders) cost on your cat?

Re: Some total jerk stole my inter 2 [Re: ] #219580 09/14/10 03:59 PM 09/14/10 03:59 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,969 B brucat Carpal Tunnel
brucat Carpal Tunnel B Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,969	That's my point. Rudders come off with one pin (each) on my boat. Not worth taking a chance leaving them on the boat for long-term storage. Same reason I wouldn't leave the sails tied to the tramp. The other thing is, even if the rudders aren't stolen, they are highly likely to be tripped over and broken at night (or even in daylight by people playing on the beach, not watching where they're walking, etc.) . No mischief needs to be intended for this. Don't get me wrong, I wish none of this were necessary, but we don't live in that world... Mike

Re: Some total jerk stole my inter 2 [Re: brucat] #219582 09/14/10 04:50 PM 09/14/10 04:50 PM
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Luiz veteran Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,307 Asuncion, Paraguay	An effective sign around here is Smile! You're on TV! Luiz

Re: Some total jerk stole my inter 2 [Re: brucat] #219589 09/14/10 06:47 PM 09/14/10 06:47 PM
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MN3 Unregistered M	Originally Posted by brucat That's my point. Rudders come off with one pin (each) on my boat. Not worth taking a chance leaving them on the boat for long-term storage. Same reason I wouldn't leave the sails tied to the tramp. The other thing is, even if the rudders aren't stolen, they are highly likely to be tripped over and broken at night (or even in daylight by people playing on the beach, not watching where they're walking, etc.) . No mischief needs to be intended for this. Don't get me wrong, I wish none of this were necessary, but we don't live in that world... Mike agreed

Re: Some total jerk stole my inter 2 [Re: ] #219604 09/15/10 06:25 AM 09/15/10 06:25 AM
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DennisMe addict Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 431 Netherlands	I remember a sticker from when I was a kid "you toucha my truck, I breaka your face!" Worked for me...

Re: Some total jerk stole my inter 2 [Re: I20RI] #219625 09/15/10 01:20 PM 09/15/10 01:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL waterbug_wpb Carpal Tunnel
waterbug_wpb Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL	Originally Posted by I20RI Anyone want to buy an I20? is it still in Sarasota? Jay

Re: Some total jerk stole my inter 2 [Re: waterbug_wpb] #219806 09/17/10 02:10 PM 09/17/10 02:10 PM
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I20RI OP member I Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 164	yup

Re: Some total jerk stole my inter 2 [Re: waterbug_wpb] #219807 09/17/10 02:11 PM 09/17/10 02:11 PM
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I20RI OP member I Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 164	and i'll be there oct 19th or so to get ready for buzzelli multihull rendesvouz

Re: Some total jerk stole my inter 2 [Re: F18_VB] #219882 09/19/10 11:00 AM 09/19/10 11:00 AM
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IndyWave enthusiast Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 342 Indianapolis, IN - Midwest USA...	Originally Posted by F18_VB The best advice i have heard is to put a tarp over it with white paint dropped all over it to make it look like bird poo. No one will try and sit on it then. I was thinking this might be a good use for the old rubber fake vomit. Putting that on your trampoline might discourage anyone from sitting on it; but then again, it might encourage someone to add to it. What - Me Worry? 2006 Hobie Wave 7358 "Ish Kabibble"

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