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Carlyle #218502
08/29/10 06:55 PM
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Dan asked me to get this out to the F16 crowd. Enjoy.
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MUDDY WATERS



October 1-3, 2010



LOCATION Race headquarters will be on the grounds of the Carlyle Sailing Association (CSA) located in Hazlet State Park, approximately six miles north of Carlyle, Illinois off of Rte 127. From I-70 take Rte. 127 south approx. 15 miles to Hazlet State Park entrance, 62231.



--- NO PETS OR CAMPING PERMITTED ON CSA GROUNDS ----



CLASSES Classes to be sailed may include: Low PHRF, High PHRF, Hobie 18, Hobie 17, Hobie 16, A Cats. Minimum of three boats per class.



RULES Races will be sailed under the current rules of the USSA and the current rules of the International Hobie Class Association. Any special sailing instructions will be issued as outlined in Part II, Sec. 3 of the current USSA rules.



FEES Include:

Awards

Continental Breakfast

Beverages

Sat. Lunch

Non-Sailor’s package includes Breakfast, Lunch and Beverages



TENTATIVE SCHEDULE
ACCOMMODATIONS

Friday 7:00-9:00 pm
Registration
Camping:
Hazlet State Park – 618-594-3913

Saturday 7:30-9:00am
Registration & breakfast
Motels
Microtel Inn – 877-451-ROOM

Saturday 9:30 am
Skipper’s Meeting

Super 8 Motel – 618-594-8888


Morning Races

Knotty Pine – 618-526-4556 (in Breese)

Saturday evening
Dinner

Victorian Inn B&B 618-594-8506

Sunday 7:00am
Breakfast



Sunday 9:00 am
Morning races




Awards following races












REGISTRATION

Mail to: Dave Bryant; dave@801west.com Mail checks to: Dave Bryant, 119 Knob Creek Lane, O’Fallon, IL 62269

Or bring a check to the Regatta.

Skipper: ___________________________________________________

email: ­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­_______________________________________________

Crew: ____________________________________________________

Phone # ______________________ Home Fleet _____________

Class 20____ 18____ 17____ 16____ 14____ Open____ A Cat_____

Sail Number ____________

Weight: Skipper _________ Crew _______




Totals

Regatta Entry
Single handed boats
$35.00



Crewed boats
$40.00



Early Regis. By 9-4
-$5.00


Discounts (only 1)
NAHCA Discount
-$5.00



Divisional Member
-$5.00



USSA Discount
10%


Dinner

# ____ X $8.00


Non-Sailor package

#____X $10.00








Make check payable to Hobie Fleet 123

Visit us at: www.csa-sailing.org then click on Fleets/Open Cats

For more info: dave@801west.com




Pete Pollard
Blade 702

'When you have a lot of things to do, it's best to get your nap out of the way first.

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Re: Carlyle [Re: pgp] #218503
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I'm planning on it.


I'm boatless.
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Who is going?

I'm thinking about it....



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From CRAW, me, Mark Thomson, Dan Feldman and Karl. Maybe the new Viper from CRAW as well (Hearn/Johnson). Also I heard Andy was coming up.


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So we've got six F16's potentially coming?

Hearn will be going, but he's bringing the A-Cat.


I'm boatless.
Re: Carlyle [Re: Karl_Brogger] #219999
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Yeah, just got a note from Daniel. Supposedly, they have a dozen A cats coming. That could be an intersting start.

I'll ask JJ. He may sail uni.

I also reached out to Jody/Joanna and Mike.


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Originally Posted by TEH
Yeah, just got a note from Daniel. Supposedly, they have a dozen A cats coming. That could be an intersting start.

I'll ask JJ. He may sail uni.

I also reached out to Jody/Joanna and Mike.


Start below the A-cats. whistle


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I think JJ is out of the deal on the Viper with Hearn. So, I've been trying to pawn off my lower Viper on him.......


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Start below the A-cats. whistle


no doubt, anything else would be suicidal. Unless you can tack off immediately.


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Keep building the fleet! Mark is looking for a buyer for his old Blade and Dan's Falcon is going on the block...


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Temp forecast in the 70's with good wind both days. They say that they are expecting a big turnout. I want to say last year there were around 27 boats so possibly more this year.


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The A's ended up having a separate start. They also had two windward marks. One for the spin boats/As and one for the Hobies.

This is a repost from the general forum. Thought maybe some discussion on sailing in tall waves might ensue:

35 boats registered, I don't know how many actually sailed.

Saturday was overcast. Rain in the morning. Probably low 60s.
Wind was 10-15 mph, but some pretty good gusts. The bigger issue was the nature of the waves. Wind was out of the North, so they had the full length of the lake to build. Evidently Carlyle is pretty shallow so the wavelength was quite short. You would power through the first wave (or fly over the top) and your bow would plow into the next right away. Especially if you didn't have any boat speed.

They got in 3 races.

Saturday exact same conditions except sun and colder. I think at most it was low 50s at race time (9 AM start). Two races.

Lots of flips. They gave an award for the most. One A Cat snapped mast. Another had his boom come apart in a pitchpole (I think). One T-bone. H16 into an TheMightyHobie18. Two holes and they had to be towed in as they filled up with water.

Because of the conditions, Andy crewed up (I kinda wanted to see him sail uni). Other than the A's and a H17, there were 4 unis. Mark (F16), Wally (F17), Bill(F17) and me (F16). I think we might have had 5 complete races between all of us.

Joe Leonard won the A Cats followed by Howard Haines. Mike Hill won the High P with Andy second. Andy did not race one race due to conditions and had a spinnaker issue in the last race, but I think it was close with the tossout. I think one point separated the A Cats.

As always, CSA put on a great regatta. Great food. Free beer. Hot showers. Propane powered heater and hot drinks on the beach. Good raffle with some nice gear on Sat. Night. Very nice A cat trophies. Nice people.

Last edited by TEH; 10/04/10 08:06 AM.

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I'm not too sure of what kind of discussion on waves, BUT...

In general...

A little more rotation and NO PINCHING!!! Especially on a UNI boat. Don't worry, I'm guilty of that!


Something else that MIGHT help...

Get a little further back on the boat. So you can skim across the waves instead going through them.....MAYBE???

Mike


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Re: Carlyle [Re: mikeborden] #220848
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One of the F17 sailors said to get powered up, go out on the wire and try to power through them until you pick up enough speed to slice through them instead of going over them. Also, everyone agreed no pinching.


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That does make sense...

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