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Posts: 142 3 weeks Newman WA 1 week Robe ... | if the hobie 16 gets selected as the new olympiuc catamaran, im going to the next ISAF meeting and im going to climb the clocktower........... youve been warned you old pompous so and so's.....
DONT DO IT!!!
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#222056 10/19/10 12:07 PM 10/19/10 12:07 PM |
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | What happened to, "any multihull, as long as we have an event?"
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After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
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#222057 10/19/10 12:13 PM 10/19/10 12:13 PM |
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Posts: 267 Ocean Springs, MS | any multihull is great as long as its not "slow and fat".
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | Did we go to high school together??
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- The harder you practice, the luckier you get - Gary Player, pro golfer
After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
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Posts: 749 Santa Cruz, CA | if the hobie 16 gets selected as the new olympiuc catamaran, im going to the next ISAF meeting and im going to climb the clocktower........... You gonna jump? | | | Re: Multihulls and the Olympics
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Posts: 117 Cairns FNQ | Did you know....... The Hobie 16 is sailed competetively in more countries around the world than any other catamaran.... I had my suspicions, but I only just found that out. It just may get over the line after all!!!!!
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Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn | if the hobie 16 gets selected as the new olympiuc catamaran, im going to the next ISAF meeting and im going to climb the clocktower........... You gonna jump? To both comments: I pissed my pants a little bit. Thanks for that. That's just funny!
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | Hopefully the Hobie Class would decline the offer if the 16 was selected. The IHCA has declined in the past.
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- The harder you practice, the luckier you get - Gary Player, pro golfer
After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
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#222091 10/19/10 06:59 PM 10/19/10 06:59 PM |
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Posts: 1,307 Asuncion, Paraguay | Hopefully the Hobie Class would decline the offer if the 16 was selected. The IHCA has declined in the past. as did the A Class (IACA)
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[Re: Devon]
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Posts: 1,152 tampa, fl | I find it interesting that everyone (here) wants multihulls back in the olympics......as long as it's not their class.
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#222119 10/20/10 06:34 AM 10/20/10 06:34 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD Mark Schneider
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | The Olympics used to drive the elite levels of cat racing. It was the primary mechanism that generated sailing stars. When these sailors dropped down to F18's or A class or Hobie 16's, Everyone took notice and tried to raise their game.
Loosing the Olympics and not having a gran prix circuit is a problem for the elite level of our sport. Nevertheless, As you point out... We need Olympics.... but not on the boat that I sail is a common theme... The Olympic class will be run to satisfy the small number of olympic sailors and not the larger class.
The great news is that the AC magically moved our way. Hopefully the beach cat world can find a way to use this ultimate stage to strengthen and grow the sport at the elite level. The Olympics would then diminish in importance.
Till we figure it out... The Olympics is still important.... We hope they figure it out.
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#222127 10/20/10 07:16 AM 10/20/10 07:16 AM |
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Posts: 110 | Dear Cat Fans, There is now a serious risk that Sailing could be dropped from the Olympics in the new era of competition between sports for limited slots. The ISAF Annual Conference in Athens between 5th and 13th November is a good opportunity to improve Sailing's chances by introducing more high-performance events including multi-hulls once more for 2016. This is on its agenda because the Executive proposes that the decision be brought forward to this year and the Events Committee recommends that the Olympic Regatta includes a Mixed Multihull Event - a solution that we first suggested in our 2008 Report. However it also has many 5x2 submissions for one Event each for Men and one for Women in five distinct disciplines - One Person Dinghy, Two Person Dinghy. Keelboat, Multihull and Windsurfer. These maximise telegenic high-performance boats and therefore TV revenues, which may prove to be the decisive factor. They are also the most logical and comprehensible for non-sailors. Here is our new Report on this crucial issue. See http://www.catamaran.co.uk for background information on the last campaign and http://www.multihull2016.com for progress of this one. Please express your views politely to your national representative(s) at the Conference. He is Phil Jones and can be emailed at phil.jones@yachting.org.au Nick Dewhirst Chairman United Kingdom Catamaran Racing Association http://www.catamaran.co.ukhttp://www.multihull2016.com -------- The Multihull 2016 website was built and is hosted by Design & Post ( http://www.designandpost.co.uk/) | | | Re: Multihulls and the Olympics
[Re: Mark Schneider]
#222128 10/20/10 07:18 AM 10/20/10 07:18 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Why does everyone see it as such a detriment to their class? I think it's clear that if they were to go with an F18 or an A-cat that it would be a SMOD from within that Formula rule that if it didn't evolve might become sort-of irrelevant, or at least semi-distant, to the class as hull shapes and foils evolve elsewhere.
With the Hobie 16 - I don't understand the hesitation...if the class was controlled within the existing (and very unchanging) ruleset as a SMOD - what's the drawback? More high-end competition?
Is it fear of an arms race? How many times have we heard threat of that issue that never came to fruition?
Is it a deep seated fear of fierce competition?
Is it a fear of more formality within the class?
What is it?
Jake Kohl | | | Re: Multihulls and the Olympics
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#222129 10/20/10 07:20 AM 10/20/10 07:20 AM |
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