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[Re: karena]
#221460 10/11/10 03:35 PM 10/11/10 03:35 PM |
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Posts: 921 Alachua, FL | I keep the boat in a freshwater lake for 5 months of Minnesota summer. I get a lot of algae growth that slows me down and looks ugly.
I've been reading up on both gel coat repair and antifouling paint. Any recommendations?
I'd be happy if the algae fur is shorter than my boyfriend's hair! Karena, Most folks here would say "don't leave your boat in the water". However, since that is what you are doing and are comfortable with it, it only remains to get rid of the algae. You aren't racing, so your best solution is simply to clean the hulls and inspect them for any serious structural issues. If they pass that inspection, choose a good antifouling paint and brush or roll it on following the instructions. There are probably boat owners on your lake that know what works best there. And...you can always clip your boyfriends hair. There are also more boys out there if that doesn't work. One of them might have a hot racing cat and you won't even need the bottom job. Good luck.
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#221468 10/11/10 06:45 PM 10/11/10 06:45 PM | MN3
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Unregistered | great advice Jack! there are several products on the market that claim to be able to restore old gelcoat. some people swear by them. You can also wet sand the gelcoat (if not shot) to remove crud and restore its shine. also there are many acid products that are great to clean the surface. many people in my area use sno-bowl (toilet cleaner). it is a good idea to wax the boat after using an acid wash to seal the newly clean boat. this will help to keep it clean.
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#221502 10/12/10 09:22 AM 10/12/10 09:22 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | "Hullkote wax" How secure is your footing when righting?
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#221504 10/12/10 09:27 AM 10/12/10 09:27 AM | MN3
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Unregistered | i personally don't wax the top 8" or so of the outer hull, and don't wax the standing area (where i stand to right) inside the hulls. | | | Re: Hull Refinishing
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Posts: 3,655 Portland, Maine | Pete: Never had a problem with footing - but I also have straps sewn on the bottom of my trampoline to help me get up on the hull during a capsize. I also have lots of real estate both on the inside of the hull and on the bottom of my foot | | | Re: Hull Refinishing
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#221508 10/12/10 09:42 AM 10/12/10 09:42 AM |
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Posts: 921 Alachua, FL | I just went through a gelcoat restoration job on my N20.
None of that will solve her problem. She needs to prevent algae because she leaves the boat in the water. She also said she doesn't need a smooth bottom.
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#221528 10/12/10 06:12 PM 10/12/10 06:12 PM |
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Posts: 699 SE Pa. or Chesapeak Bay | Karena,
Gellcoat Blistering looks like a really bad case of mosquito bites ..... basically small welts, about the size of a dime or nickle ... a large blister is quarter sized. I can tell exactly how low in the water this TheMightyHobie18 was floating as the hulls have a distinct line which all the "blisters" are below .... and smooth hull above.
I remember reading somewhere years ago when I was in printed circut board manufacturing/assembly that "fiberglass" can assorb up to 1/3 it's wieght in moisture/water .... this is why those of us who race sailboats usually store them in "dry storage" ... even the larger sailboats. The lighter the sailboat ... the less force (wind) it takes to move it ... the faster the sailboat is ...
So ask around for some advise from some of the professional marine people who maintain 25ft or larger boats that spend most of the year in the water. I believe that they have developed "barrier coats" that prevent the absorbtion of moisture .... some of the newer bottom paints may already have been formulated to prevent gellcoat blisters. I just do not know as my boats is "dry" stored on the Yacht Club's lawn or on it's trailer in my backyard.
Of course if you could find away to store your beach cat on "dry" land it would eliminate all of this problem. Now when my boat is sitting on "dry land" (and not on it's trailer) I have made wooden blocks of 4"X 6" Pressure treated wood w/ a 2"X 10" piece of pressure treated wood as a base about 12-14" long (we have termits/carpender ants in Chesapeake/Maryland that love kiln dryed lumber since we usually do not have deeply frozen ground in the winter) ... I use nylon carpet and styrene that do not retain moisture/water to pad the 4X6 to protect the hull. Just having your hulls resting for long periods on wet/damp ground can cause "gelcoat blisters" too.
Harry
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#221537 10/13/10 01:28 AM 10/13/10 01:28 AM |
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Posts: 1,382 Essex, UK | Karena - google 'osmosis' in relation to fibreglass. There are instructional videos and links to corrective products out there. Main thing is to get ALL the affected gelcoat and surface resin off and allow the hulls to air-dry (anything up to 6 months) before restoring the bottom finish. Trapping moisture inside the layup with a barrier coat is a total no-no!
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#221546 10/13/10 06:35 AM 10/13/10 06:35 AM |
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Posts: 263 SC | Harry, good point.
Because polyester gelcoat will absorb water over time people who leave their boats in the water usually apply an antifouling paint which actually sloughs off over time revealing more of the toxic copper or organic compounds to fight off growth. A lot of the racing mono's will apply an epoxy barrier coat to help reduce water absorption under the ablative paint.
Blisters have to be broken and allowed to dry out completely before they can be repaired, faired, and recoated.
I have actually seen some cats with small blisters forming from resting on the carpeted sections of the hull cradles on trailers that had remained damp.
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#221550 10/13/10 07:24 AM 10/13/10 07:24 AM |
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Posts: 1,658 Florida Suncoast, Dunedin Caus... | While it may not happen in this case if your thinking of re-gelcoating your boat there is vinylester gelcoat available. Does not absorb water. It's a much better product. I'm to the point where I don't use polyester for anything.
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#221563 10/13/10 08:53 AM 10/13/10 08:53 AM |
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[Re: karena]
#221607 10/14/10 01:14 AM 10/14/10 01:14 AM |
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Posts: 1,382 Essex, UK | If you have power in your garage, store the boat with hatch covers off and dangle a 60w or 40w bulb (on continuously) through each of the two centre hatches. Low tech way of 'force' drying the hulls over a long period at low cost with low risk.
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